Boxslinger11
Next gen teamster
@rod had his horse die on route
Heard new DIAD upgrade coming RDO will be gone
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Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
And they got 2x 35 minutes horse meal breaks.
Blackadder 2
Well-Known Member
Get used to failure.
Thegameisrigged
Well-Known Member
I think you’re right. lol.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
The few times I ran a route that had Orion turned off the bottom right soft key was replaced with "sched", which takes you right to the scheduled pick up screen.
rod
Retired 22 years
UPS always treated their animals better than their people
the company will be adding turn by turn GPS to the diads in all of the centers, getting rid of all the stick shifts, and purchasing more package cars so that they can add more routes to be able to have low volume on each route so that anyone can handle the routes. They have already started doing all three of these things at my center. They will do all of this to be able to replace us easily when we go on strike. The company wants us to go on strike so that they can replace all of us right away. Hoffa will be paid off and he will go dancing off into the sunset and UPS will no longer be a Union company.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Do yourself a favor and google "Rural Free Delivery numbers" and let us know if you still think it was "probably easier back then".
govols019
You smell that?
Harder to learn? Yes. Harder to run once you knew it? No.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Once you figured out how the rural carrier delivered the mail you were golden.
TheMachine
Are you sure you want to punch out?
I would, but I just don’t want to.
Johney
Well-Known Member
I have done it. When we'd have our EDD system go down and they had to do it old school you'd see all the young guys with this panic look on their face.
Orion is the company being stubborn and forcing their billion dollar failed experiment on us.
A few days in and we already have sups turning that
off because some routes are impossible to do.
Not to mention how are people going to learn new routes when there is no consistency on how the route is run.
I mean Orion can't even put one section of business together. Not to mention it wants you to do ridiculous things like deliver on both sides of heavy streets back and forth.
A few days in and we already have sups turning that
off because some routes are impossible to do. Not to mention how are people going to learn new routes when there is no consistency on how the route is run.
I mean Orion can't even put one section of business together. Not to mention it wants you to do ridiculous things like deliver on both sides of heavy streets back and forth.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
fixed that for you
ORION is just a calculator, your dispatcher controls all of the inputs and can change anything he wants
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Doesn't matter if Orion was designed properly, if the people using it don't know how to do it right, the system is a failure.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
so if a guy points a gun at his head and pulls the trigger, the gun failed?
that’s pretty terrible logic even for a driver
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
The logic is sound. If you design a system that requires capable operators, and don't hire capable operators, the system, as a whole, is a failure. Where the logic breaks down is how that relates in any way to someone shooting themselves in the head. A better analogy would be designing a high performance race car, and putting a monkey behind the wheel. The car may be perfect, but the team will never win a race.
gman042
Been around the block a few times
The problem with this delivery technology is it is forcing drivers to become stupid. Instead of reasoning and learning they are allowing themselves to follow the flawed information that is contained in the diad.
In the NW district there is one guy that is allowed to rewrite a route. ONE! There should be at least a dozen people that should be trained on how to rewrite routes to be able to fix the CF that is orion. Consequently 2/3 of the routes in my building have either trace issues or allowance issues that are not being managed. If these were fixed then we would not have drivers dispatched with 6 hours worth the work because it actually takes them 9 to do it. Why? Because the time allowances are skewed.
In the NW district there is one guy that is allowed to rewrite a route. ONE! There should be at least a dozen people that should be trained on how to rewrite routes to be able to fix the CF that is orion. Consequently 2/3 of the routes in my building have either trace issues or allowance issues that are not being managed. If these were fixed then we would not have drivers dispatched with 6 hours worth the work because it actually takes them 9 to do it. Why? Because the time allowances are skewed.
