Hoffa is already selling us out.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Cheech_, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. Cheech_

    Cheech_ It's mostly Maui Wowie but part Labrador.

  2. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    I'll be honest.
    Too much leaked information will not make for a good negotiation.
    This isn't about hiding transparency, it's about having a good discussion behind closed doors.

    It's only February, I don't need to know everything right now.
     
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  3. Cheech_

    Cheech_ It's mostly Maui Wowie but part Labrador.

    I don't either, and yes it's very early, but I definitely like knowing what they're sweeping under the rug and which issues they're standing their ground on.
     
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  4. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    He was told to keep his mouth shut, he didn't....what did he reasonably expect?
     
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  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    To much information confuses and scares most members. Half my building thought the proposals were the new contract. Giving members inside information that will do them basically no good is not a smart idea. That's what the committee is trying to avoid.

    Till we see the proposed contract. Most of this stuff is just political crap. He knew he'd be bounced for talking and that's what he wanted.
     
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  6. dookie stain

    dookie stain Cornfed whiteboy

    I just want the rest of my 9.5 checks from last year.
     
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  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    You think they care!!!!... They are damn Cowboys!! Roll Teamsters!
     
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  8. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    That's why they put out the initial and after reading the responses to it I think putting out the info was a bad idea.
     
  9. dookie stain

    dookie stain Cornfed whiteboy

    Hahahhaa roll tide
     
  10. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    This Union is so incredibly weak it is pathetic
     
  11. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Cripes, there are people here that think the proposals are the new contract.

    I really appreciate the fact that we got to see the opening proposals and I think now it is a good time to not show us anything until there is an agreement to vote on.
    We all know that UPS will plead poverty, that is what they do.
     
  12. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Although I have no horse in this race, if given a chance, I would vote for a daily transcript of the negotiations to be released to Teamster members only. That way a person could really tell who was working for you and who was being paid off. Full disclosure can be your friend.
     
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  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I felt this way until I saw the reActions to the initial proposal that was released.


    Most teamsters have no idea how negotiations work (its sad but true) releasing the initial proposal is just going to lead to no votes over unrealistic expectations
     
  14. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Yep...we get to vote the contract in later...if it’s not to our liking send the :censored2:ing thing back... simple as that!!
     
  15. Its too late:
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    It was in the news tonite. The chinese army knows about it now. TDU leaked it. We all know theyre TDU. @BigUnionGuy confirmed it. This is bull:censored2:!
     
  16. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Just from what I read on here most people have already made up their minds to vote yes on anything offered (or taken away) because they are afraid to strike.
     
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  17. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    The south carried the last contract through. I can tell you, at least in my center, the mentality is different this time. More people are engaged this time due to the 9.5 issues and this past peak of UPS showing how much they care about hourlies.

    People who I would have never thought would care are now coming up to a few of us who follow negotiations asking if “this and that” are true and how they’ll vote no if “this and that” aren’t addressed.

    This isn’t 2013, much has changed, and not for the better.
     
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  18. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Now if you can just get those damn pusillanimous Canadians on board!
     
  19. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member


    Disagree, that will only allow Hoffa to blame all the failings on the company. If Hoffa had a sack he would be bending the company over!
     
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  20. dookie stain

    dookie stain Cornfed whiteboy

    Yea let’s just wait til July! Great plan!