most of you must not have been around in the mid 90's, UPS tried reducing management, it failed miserably. Not that there aren't people at all levels that don't carry their weight but be careful what you ask for. It is kind of like me saying district managers don't do anything or IE staff managers don't do anything, I have never been one, they may do more than I could or I would, reducing them may cause more harm than good. I try not to talk too much about things I know nothing about, I can speculate but unless I have walked in someone's shoes I could never be the expert on what their contribution means to the business.
just my 2 cents.
Please don't try to inject rationale into this thread!
most of you must not have been around in the mid 90's, UPS tried reducing management, it failed miserably. Not that there aren't people at all levels that don't carry their weight but be careful what you ask for. It is kind of like me saying district managers don't do anything or IE staff managers don't do anything, I have never been one, they may do more than I could or I would, reducing them may cause more harm than good. I try not to talk too much about things I know nothing about, I can speculate but unless I have walked in someone's shoes I could never be the expert on what their contribution means to the business.
just my 2 cents.
Hi, everyone!
I am a loader and on my PD we need only one p/t sup., but we have two! And what they do, guess – the Union job, sending people home, and loading instead of them. And we, now have to fight over our minimum, 3 ½ hours. (And, the Union rep. people….even from the “Union Hall”, just waking buy, ignoring…)
Cut them off!!!
Hi, everyone!
I am a loader and on my PD we need only one p/t sup., but we have two! And what they do, guess – the Union job, sending people home, and loading instead of them. And we, now have to fight over our minimum, 3 ½ hours. (And, the Union rep. people….even from the “Union Hall”, just waking buy, ignoring…)
Cut them off!!!
Isn't it curious that a pkg car driver can get fired for "padding stops" and/or "padding miles"
OMG...I can't believe what you're saying Trickpony. Are you actually saying that there are Teamster pkg car drivers that would cheat and not give UPS a fair and honest days work? I hope 705 doesn't see you bad mouthing the Teamsters by saying that there are dishonest Teamsters working for UPS.
We were just casually talking about the what if of management layoffs and it was said theyd go by seniority company wise so with 2 years suping and a year and a couple months as union would put me in line as like 8th out of 28 pt sups, id figured theyd go by some sort of performance based layoffs
I learned at ups a long time ago, that your only as good as your management team! And if you break down the ratio of union employees honesty to managements honesty, its leaning heavily towards management as being the dishonest ones!OMG...I can't believe what you're saying Trickpony. Are you actually saying that there are Teamster pkg car drivers that would cheat and not give UPS a fair and honest days work? I hope 705 doesn't see you bad mouthing the Teamsters by saying that there are dishonest Teamsters working for UPS.
I learned at ups a long time ago, that your only as good as your management team! And if you break down the ratio of union employees honesty to managements honesty, its leaning heavily towards management as being the dishonest ones!
They wont cut that much management. We have a lot of ownership in the company, and we actually care about the well-being of the company. We now have frozen salaries, no 401K match, and more than likely we wont get our half month or our MIP, and what did we do the next day after getting that news??? We showed up to work just like every other day. What would more than likely happen if they did that to the union employees??? A strike??? A massive work slowdown??? Bottom line is we will do whatever it takes to keep this company a float. The same cannot be said for the union employees....