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vantexan

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yea im aware of that unfortunately. the Europeans are also more enlightened in the sense they let their citizens choose between which country they want to live in.

my granny was polish and i am working on my dual citizenship right now. hopefully it works out, but if not ill just find myself a nice frenchy 5 years from now or so.
The U.S. is larger geographically than Europe and we can choose to live in whatever state we prefer. The Europeans only recently started allowing what we take for granted. That's a major reason for the EU, to allow the free movement of people and trade.
 

rickyb

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The U.S. is larger geographically than Europe and we can choose to live in whatever state we prefer. The Europeans only recently started allowing what we take for granted. That's a major reason for the EU, to allow the free movement of people and trade.
thats true. i think they got it better in a way that the culture is more diverse, but then again it sucks because you probably gotta speak the local language depending on what country you live in EU.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
well theyve been radicalized, and they are getting revenge for US government destroying lives around teh globe all for control of resources

One problem: nearly all of their targets are civilians who are about as far removed from this mythical destruction of lives to control resources as you are. One more problem: They are slaughtering Muslims (the non-radical breed) as frequently as they slaughter Christians.

Michael Moore hasn't discussed this yet, so I can understand if it's a new concept to you.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
One problem: nearly all of their targets are civilians who are about as far removed from this mythical destruction of lives to control resources as you are. One more problem: They are slaughtering Muslims (the non-radical breed) as frequently as they slaughter Christians.

Michael Moore hasn't discussed this yet, so I can understand if it's a new concept to you.
hey im not an expert, but im closer to the truth than most people on this site.

if you ever want to know the biggest terrorist group (definition: violence for political means), look no further than the government. biggest terrorist group in canada is the government, biggest terrorist group in america is the government. not to say that government imperialism isnt influenced by corporate interests.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
well thats true no place is perfect, but anyways i want to move to the Mediterranean in france first choice, or italy.

free education, 6 weeks paid vacation, guaranteed maternity leave, the people actually have expectations and protests for social policies...

All of which was made possible by the United States military, who had to chase the Germans out of France.

Twice.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
All of which was made possible by the United States military, who had to chase the Germans out of France.

Twice.
yea so what happened? now these countries which were fascist are better than the ones who arent. makes no sense. america should be tearing :censored2: up right now but its not.

and off the top of my head, FDR called mussolini "that charming italian gentleman". it took awhile for the americans to get involved. im pretty sure the war was a political calculation, it wasnt based on morality.

and actually the reason EU has those things is because of social movement and unions, which in america were all completely destroyed after wwII
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
hey im not an expert, but im closer to the truth than most people on this site.

if you ever want to know the biggest terrorist group (definition: violence for political means), look no further than the government. biggest terrorist group in canada is the government, biggest terrorist group in america is the government. not to say that government imperialism isnt influenced by corporate interests.

Yeah, when I think of terrorism in the US, I don't think of Islamic radicals blowing people up, I think of those fat old heifers at the DMV who move at a glacial pace. THEY ARE THE ENEMY!!!1!
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Yeah, when I think of terrorism in the US, I don't think of Islamic radicals blowing people up, I think of those fat old heifers at the DMV who move at a glacial pace. THEY ARE THE ENEMY!!!1!
try the force and violence america used when it criminally invaded iraq, a country which did not threaten it.

or the drones all the time.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
yea so what happened? now these countries which were fascist are better than the ones who arent. makes no sense. america should be tearing :censored2: up right now but its not.

and off the top of my head, FDR called mussolini "that charming italian gentleman". it took awhile for the americans to get involved. im pretty sure the war was a political calculation, it wasnt based on morality.

FDR was a very progressive liberal, so naturally he would be impressed with Mussolini. He spawned the programs that cause people like you to end up the way you are.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
FDR was a very progressive liberal, so naturally he would be impressed with Mussolini. He spawned the programs that cause people like you to end up the way you are.
no FDR initally ran as centrist, it was only until he was threatened with revolution by the commies, socialists, and unions, that he made some reforms to "save capitalism" as he called it.
 

vantexan

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yea so what happened? now these countries which were fascist are better than the ones who arent. makes no sense. america should be tearing :censored2: up right now but its not.

and off the top of my head, FDR called mussolini "that charming italian gentleman". it took awhile for the americans to get involved. im pretty sure the war was a political calculation, it wasnt based on morality.

and actually the reason EU has those things is because of social movement and unions, which in america were all completely destroyed after wwII
Roosevelt provided ships and supplies to England before we got in. And we got in after we were attacked by Japan. Which has it's parallel today in that we didn't invade Iraq and Afghanistan until after we were attacked on 9/11. We can argue about invading Iraq but fact is Hussein was in direct violation of, if I remember right, 17 U.N. sanctions. He was the major catalyst of our invasion as he numerous times pushed the narrative that he had weapons of mass destruction and was a major supporter of suicide bombers in Israel. But I digress. If you are implying we had no business getting involved in WWII you have been brainwashed. Whatever you think of America the fact remains that the evil that was being done by the Nazis and Imperial Japan had to be stopped. 100,000,000 died in that war, a million Americans among them. That generation understood sacrifice and honor, attributes that seem in short supply these days. The Nazis in particular demonstrated what modern technology in the wrong hands could do. We stood up to the Soviet Union for the same reason, and must overcome radical Islam before it too requires vast armies and resources to defeat it. The Michael Moore's of the world make a very good living getting naive kids to believe that America is the problem. Unfortunately this poison has infected our universities and our press. Go to France and look at the military cemeteries full of those who understood what was at stake and gave their lives defending it. Something that the namby pambies trying to tear down America just don't get.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
FDR was a very progressive liberal, so naturally he would be impressed with Mussolini. He spawned the programs that cause people like you to end up the way you are.

FDR saved the country from the Depression created by Republican policies. The programs he spawned prevented us from becoming a Third World has-been.

Besides being a shill, you're also a GOP tool.
 
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