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vantexan

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when you use force and violence to defend capitalism, thats crony capitalism.

if people want a revolution and dont want capitalism, thats their business. US government has no right to invade a country to enforce corporate capitalism and low wages on people. if workers dont want capitalism, and want to control their own destiny and control their own jobs with no bosses, thats their BIZ!

yes american govt did crush democracy in vietnam (as did the french before you) and yes american government invaded iraq for the oil.

you have crony capitalism. its not run on the principle of competition. the only principle the ruling class runs by is power and profit and thats it. they only like competition when its profitable for them, and when competition aint profitable they dont like it... real simple

yea you should be taking notes from other countries, america is way behind these days.
The U.S. didn't invade Vietnam, it came in at the behest of the South Vietnamese gov't. What the communists installed after we left wasn't democracy. And you need to learn what communism entails. You say no bosses, yet the power in communism rests in a centralized gov't that dictates how everything is to be done. It has complete control over it's citizens' lives. What you are seeing in many former communist countries today is either a complete repudiation of communism or in the case of some, like Vietnam or China, a much softer stance on capitalism. You say we should be taking notes from other countries. There are many in Eastern Europe who are scratching their heads at socialist movements in Western Europe and the Americas. Didn't we learn anything from their experience?
 

rickyb

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You might as well stay. Save your money. Something tells me that you would find fault and be miserable any place you lived.
well thats true no place is perfect, but anyways i want to move to the Mediterranean in france first choice, or italy.

free education, 6 weeks paid vacation, guaranteed maternity leave, the people actually have expectations and protests for social policies...
 

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well thats true no place is perfect, but anyways i want to move to the Mediterranean in france first choice, or italy.

free education, 6 weeks paid vacation, guaranteed maternity leave, the people actually have expectations and protests for social policies...
Do you contribute in anyway to society? It seems like you are always looking for a free or easy way out.
 

vantexan

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well thats true no place is perfect, but anyways i want to move to the Mediterranean in france first choice, or italy.

free education, 6 weeks paid vacation, guaranteed maternity leave, the people actually have expectations and protests for social policies...
France is in both the European Union and the Schengen Area. If you aren't from a member country you can't just move there. Unless you qualify for residency you'll have to leave after 3 months and go completely out of the Schengen Area for 3 months before returning.
 

rickyb

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Do you contribute in anyway to society? It seems like you are always looking for a free or easy way out.
i work for a 2 capitalists roughly 38 hours a week so i make them very rich, and i get a little in return being lower middle class. so in that sense, the capitalists are the real bloodsuckers, and i am the hard worker.

i go to protests when theyre around. i went vegan eariler this year because the meat industry is the number 1 cause of climate change.

usually i donate money to political organizations. i donated maybe $1000 or so this year so far. i should donate more. i buy some of my clothes from anonymous and wikileaks so thats good too. i have a bumper sticker for democracy now.

thats about it. even though its not much, im probably less of a drag than you, and maybe most people out there.
 

rickyb

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France is in both the European Union and the Schengen Area. If you aren't from a member country you can't just move there. Unless you qualify for residency you'll have to leave after 3 months and go completely out of the Schengen Area for 3 months before returning.
yea im aware of that unfortunately. the Europeans are also more enlightened in the sense they let their citizens choose between which country they want to live in.

my granny was polish and i am working on my dual citizenship right now. hopefully it works out, but if not ill just find myself a nice frenchy 5 years from now or so.
 

rickyb

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Cow farts?
yea its strange that more people dont know about the meat industry because its the number one cause of climate change. i think its partly because alot of people wouldnt support the notion of giving up meat. although i dont see whats wrong with fake meat, i think it tastes good enough.
 

rickyb

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Or maybe they didn't get their way, like they have all their lives until the real world showed up.
speaking of whining mr FEDUP lol.

i dont think anything is wrong with protesting aka whining, just depends on the situation.

america is in such a :censored2:ty situation right now mostly because people arent protesting enough (or at all) and the oligarchs are running the country to the ground.
 
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