Preload Pay - 2018 Contract (On Topic)

[ThatOnePreloader]

Ignorance is no excuse. They get a contract book like anyone else. Some choose to read it others do not. They are only short changing themselves.

I didn’t get a contract book or any word of the union when I started. Not sure if anyone here does really.

 

[ThatOnePreloader]

Don’t they ask why dues and initiation is taken out of their checks? And once they do find out that there is a union, they never attend meetings. Now I apologize for making a broad blanket statement for part-timers, don’t get me wrong there are a lot of part-timers that are informed and participate in union activity. But the majority do not.

At least in my center, we have to opt in for the union. We’re not required to join as preloaders here. And nobody knows to join since nobody gets word of the union when they start.

 

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At least in my center, we have to opt in for the union. We’re not required to join as preloaders here. And nobody knows to join since nobody gets word of the union when they start.

Then your local isn’t doing their job.

 

[ThatOnePreloader]

Then your local isn’t doing their job.

Figured. 767 btw if you were wondering

 

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Figured. 767 btw if you were wondering

I know nothing about them

 

[km3]

Ignorance is no excuse. They get a contract book like anyone else. Some choose to read it others do not. They are only short changing themselves.

Usually you have to find a steward that can give you one. They don't just give these things out...

 

[Indecisi0n]

Usually you have to find a steward that can give you one. They don't just give these things out...

And how old they again? Maybe they could have their mothers get them a copy.

 

[PT Car Washer]

And how old they again? Maybe they could have their mothers get them a copy.

And you wonder why PT don't get involved in Union politics.

 

[km3]

And how old they again? Maybe they could have their mothers get them a copy.

The point is that you need to know that you want or need one before you can get one. And most PTers aren't even aware that we have a contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I feel that part of the problems is PTers aren’t informed. Sure drivers know all about the union and what’s going on but a lot of the new hires don’t even know UPS is unionized unless they develop a relationship with a driver or steward that educates them about union issues (that or they stumble across this forum) others may not know how to vote, or simply don’t stay long enough to hit a voting cycle.

Many of the drivers also have no clue.

 

[Gear]

1982 Starting pay $8/hr plus $1/hr to work preload = $9/hr. 35 years later, 2017 $10/hr and no $1/hr for working preload. A $1.00 an hour raise in 35 years.

If 4/10s are a concession, whats that make this?

I know the part time union negotiations are terrible but when I actually see it, there are no words for how terrible it is. I wouldn't blame the guys living in RTW states not being union.

 

[Gear]

Part timers won’t even vote for a contract or election, I don’t expect the to vote for a decert.

It would be crazy if they did vote to decert. Assuming they never planned to drive, they have nothing to lose. Us full timers would get hammered. Not much left to take off part timers.

 

[OrionIsDaddy]

Don’t they ask why dues and initiation is taken out of their checks? And once they do find out that there is a union, they never attend meetings. Now I apologize for making a broad blanket statement for part-timers, don’t get me wrong there are a lot of part-timers that are informed and participate in union activity. But the majority do not.

Right to work state here.

Don' Have to join the union if you don' want to and nobody in management talks about it to part timers

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Right to work state here.

Don' Have to join the union if you don' want to and nobody in management talks about it to part timers

Why would anyone from management talk to any hourly about the union?

 

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Right to work state here.

Don' Have to join the union if you don' want to and nobody in management talks about it to part timers

Right to work. Lmfao. Such a bull law.

 

[MynameisNeigan]

The thing is most part time jobs are filled by young personnel, and most don’t even know the basics of the Union. Many don’t even know supervisors are not supposed to be working. That is why the part timers contract is where it’s been. $2.50 raise I the past 30 some years. Don’t expect much 2018.

 

[PT Car Washer]

The thing is most part time jobs are filled by young personnel, and most don’t even know the basics of the Union. Many don’t even know supervisors are not supposed to be working. That is why the part timers contract is where it’s been. $2.50 raise I the past 30 some years. Don’t expect much 2018.

Minimum wage job with no benefits and you think PT should join the Union and pay dues. Why?

 

[OrionIsDaddy]

Why would anyone from management talk to any hourly about the union?

As in part timers don' even know it exist. Never brought up, not even in orientation.

I never learned how to sign up for it when I was part time.

 

[PT Car Washer]

As in part timers don' even know it exist. Never brought up, not even in orientation.

I never learned how to sign up for it when I was part time.

UPS used to give the Union Steward a few minutes during orientation to talk to new hires about the benefits of joining the Union. Guess lately they can't think of anything to say.

 

[MynameisNeigan]

Minimum wage job with no benefits and you think PT should join the Union and pay dues. Why?

You are not getting my point. Most part timers are not educated on the union and union procedures and why they are there. They just show up to work and that’s it. Took me a good 6 months for someone to explain to me why it was there since I never had a union job before. Management won’t tell you. Other employees unless educated on it and active won’t really explain it to you. When I learned what I could do as a PT employee with the union, that’s when I really made more $ getting those grievance checks feels good. Sups would actually not come around my PD after u would file weekly