Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

[Box Ox]

Ignorant infidel comments are hilarious.

Yikes.

Don't mind him. Some folks just like to sprinkle a little Ya'll Qaeda flavor on their comments.

 

[Integrity]

And liberals are the ones who campaigned and passed into law many of the social programs that will help millions of low income Americans and are programs that will help to secure a better tomorrow for perhaps you as well.

I believe taking care of the sick, poor, oppressed is a mark of a great society.

 

[BrownFlush]

I believe taking care of the sick, poor, oppressed is a mark of a great society.

So didn’t FDR and Lyndon Johnson.

 

[BrownFlush]

I believe taking care of the sick, poor, oppressed is a mark of a great society.

It’s a good thing we are going to be judged by what we do individually and not collectively.

 

[BrownFlush]

@oldngray
I just read over our exchange. I didn’t have any trouble seeing where I answered your question/questions with scripture included.
You, on the other hand, spin worse than CNN.

 

[vantexan]

The Apostles were more than men?

Acts 2:3

 

[BrownFlush]

IMO When a person or denomination speaks as if their understanding of a particular Biblical text is the one, true and correct one. It is a statement that is dripping with condescension.

Is the Church of Christ a good biblical church? | GotQuestions.or

All of those who have obeyed the gospel are members of the Lord's called out body - the church. None of those who have not obeyed the gospel are members of the called out body. The denominations of men do not teach the gospel plan of salvation; they delude men into thinking that they can be saved by "faith only," before and without water baptism. To speak of those who have never obeyed the gospel of Jesus Christ as being members of the church deludes people into thinking they are saved when they are lost. Those who have never obeyed the gospel are not members of the Lord's church, although they may be members of the church established by Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smyth, Joseph Smith, and other men.

Some have suggested that New Testament Christians should fellowship all denominations. How can one become a Christian without obeying the gospel? If you do not practice and teach the doctrine of Christ, you are not are pleasing to God and fellowship (things in common) is not possible. (Eph. 5:11). Joining hands in fellowship with their violations of scripture would only endorse error and be in violation of 2 John 9-11.

The Lord's church is not made up of the good people of all denominations. It is composed of those who have obeyed the Lord's gospel in order to become a Christian and who continue to abide in Christ through faithful living. Instead of joining hands with the denominations and false teachers and their teaching, I'll make the effort to instead teach the truth and reach the lost, and ask folks to forsake humanly devised religion that will damn their souls.

 

[Integrity]

@oldngray
I just read over our exchange. I didn’t have any trouble seeing where I answered your question/questions with scripture included.
You, on the other hand, spin worse than CNN.

IMO When a person or denomination speaks as if their understanding of a particular Biblical text is the one, true and correct one. It is a statement that is dripping with condescension.

 

[728ups]

Fear of what?

Fear of punishment,eternal damnation.
Fear keeps the masses in line.
Promise the ignorant masses with the choice of "streets of gold" if they are "good" and burning forever if they are "bad"
thats a theme in many man made religions,its good crowd control

 

[Integrity]

Acts 2:3

The Apostles were more than men?

 

[728ups]

You claim the Bible teaches that God create Satan. I don’t share in this belief.

@728ups I can’t remember, so I have to ask, do you agree with the SBC decision described in the current event in the original post?

I was raised in a SBC church,so i understand the basis of the ruling,and why it was issued. The SBC does not value women outside of cooking ,cleaning,and birthing babies.

I agree with very little the SBC does.

And as far as Satan: according my Sunday School lessons years ago God created EVERYTHING. Lucifer was the most beautiful of all Angels according to the book.

 

[Integrity]

Fear of punishment,eternal damnation.
Fear keeps the masses in line.
Promise the ignorant masses with the choice of "streets of gold" if they are "good" and burning forever if they are "bad"
thats a theme in many man made religions,its good crowd control

Thank you for your direct answer.

 

[Integrity]

I was raised in a SBC church,so i understand the basis of the ruling,and why it was issued. The SBC does not value women outside of cooking ,cleaning,and birthing babies.

I agree with very little the SBC does.

And as far as Satan: according my Sunday School lessons years ago God created EVERYTHING. Lucifer was the most beautiful of all Angels according to the book.

Again, I thank you for your answer.

 

[BrownFlush]

IMO When a person or denomination speaks as if their understanding of a particular Biblical text is the one, true and correct one. It is a statement that is dripping with condescension.

I appreciate your continued attempts to offer an answer to @BrownFlush questions.

Please be a pal and show me where his attempted answers were. Also, while you’re at it, show me where he answered any of my questions. Thanks.

IMO when discussing things that have eternal consequences and no scripture is offered to support your opinion, your opinion drips with ignorance.

 

[upschuck]

IMO When a person or denomination speaks as if their understanding of a particular Biblical text is the one, true and correct one. It is a statement that is dripping with condescension.

If they didn't think it was the correct one, wouldn't they change to a different "denomination"? That pertains to everything that all of us do. We all think the way we do things is the most correct/appropriate way.

 

[upschuck]

All of those who have obeyed the gospel are members of the Lord's called out body - the church. None of those who have not obeyed the gospel are members of the called out body. The denominations of men do not teach the gospel plan of salvation; they delude men into thinking that they can be saved by "faith only," before and without water baptism. To speak of those who have never obeyed the gospel of Jesus Christ as being members of the church deludes people into thinking they are saved when they are lost. Those who have never obeyed the gospel are not members of the Lord's church, although they may be members of the church established by Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smyth, Joseph Smith, and other men.

Some have suggested that New Testament Christians should fellowship all denominations. How can one become a Christian without obeying the gospel? If you do not practice and teach the doctrine of Christ, you are not are pleasing to God and fellowship (things in common) is not possible. (Eph. 5:11). Joining hands in fellowship with their violations of scripture would only endorse error and be in violation of 2 John 9-11.

The Lord's church is not made up of the good people of all denominations. It is composed of those who have obeyed the Lord's gospel in order to become a Christian and who continue to abide in Christ through faithful living. Instead of joining hands with the denominations and false teachers and their teaching, I'll make the effort to instead teach the truth and reach the lost, and ask folks to forsake humanly devised religion that will damn their souls.

You sound very legalistic.

 

[BrownFlush]

You sound very legalistic.

As legal as the Bible let’s me. What scripture and my comment about it have you taken issue with?
There are many who are illegalist …that’s probably not a word.

 

[upschuck]

As legal as the Bible let’s me. What scripture and my comment about it have you taken issue with?
There are many who are illegalist …that’s probably not a word.

I believe you go beyond, telling people how wrong they are, and not in God's graces because they don't see things exactly like you do.

Sure hope God doesn't judge you, like you judge others, because the chances you have everything right are slim.

 

[BrownFlush]

I believe you go beyond, telling people how wrong they are, and not in God's graces because they don't see things exactly like you do.

Sure hope God doesn't judge you, like you judge others, because the chances you have everything right are slim.

Please look and see where I told anyone they were wrong. Let me know when you find it.
While you’re at it, find where I state I have everything right.

God will judge me the same way he will judge you, by his word.
“ He that rejects me and rejects my word, has a judge,The words that I have spoken the same will judge you on the last day.” - John 12: 48

 

[vantexan]

The Apostles were more than men?

Acts 2:3

When the Holy Spirit sets a flame on your head, instilling in you the ability to perform miracles as well as directs you in your writings to the Church let us know. Until then you aren't on an equivalent plane with the Lord's Apostles.