Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

[BrownFlush]

I find it amusing that @Integrity doesn't believe in some parts of the Bible, and neither does @BrownFlush. Both just picking and choosing.

Amuse me and tell me which part of the Bible I don't believe.

 

[Integrity]

This is probably best little description I’ve read from you.
That’s cause you ain’t a dogmatic prick. You are a free thinker that cares about morality.

Thank you for these nice comments.

I really appreciate it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

So you choose the NT of the Bible over the OT of the same Bible when you are picking what is worthy of emulating in the Bible in your own walk with God on this earth.

I understand, I think it is important to personally discern where religious traditions, written or not written are of God or where they are just displaying the imperfections and limited understanding of God of the individual authors. NT or OT.

Thankfully for you, me, and everyone else, the difference between Old Testament and New Testament is grace and mercy have been given to us through the shed blood.

 

[BrownFlush]

IMO

Since your opinion is all that matters, answer the questions...

Please explain how the spirit prompted you this morning.
Words, feelings, or something else?
You credit the spirit, so how was it done?
How do you discern between the prompting of the spirit and your conscience?

 

[BrownFlush]

NT, of course. I fall way short, however.

So you don't believe the OT?

 

[Integrity]

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@Box Ox
@Thebrownblob
@vantexan
@728ups
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@Yolo
@bbsam
@bacha29
@Lineandinitial
@Jiangshi
@El Correcto
@DriveInDriveOut
@govols019
@qdg2
@BadIdeaGuy
@sailfish
@burrheadd
@Integrity

 

[Thebrownblob]

Fun Facts For This Discussion Thread

2. The following is a list of the members who have thus far contributed to this discussion thread:

@upschuck
@BrownFlush
@UnionStrong
@Box Ox
@Thebrownblob
@vantexan
@728ups
@oldngray
@Yolo
@bbsam
@bacha29
@Lineandinitial
@Jiangshi
@El Correcto
@DriveInDriveOut
@govols019
@qdg2
@BadIdeaGuy
@sailfish
@burrheadd
@Integrity

 

[Integrity]

Since your opinion is all that matters, answer the questions...

I’m still contemplating, you’ll know when and if I ever get clear direction.

 

[Integrity]

Thankfully for you, me, and everyone else, the difference between Old Testament and New Testament is grace and mercy have been given to us through the shed blood.

Agreed. I believe God showed his love for us when he did that.

Do you believe everything in the Bible is worthy of emulating in your own walk with God while on this earth?

 

[upschuck]

So you choose the NT of the Bible over the OT of the same Bible when you are picking what is worthy of emulating in the Bible in your own walk with God on this earth.

I understand, I think it is important to personally discern where religious traditions, written or not written are of God or where they are just displaying the imperfections and limited understanding of God of the individual authors. NT or OT.

If you've read the NT, it clearly states that the old law no longer applies.

 

[upschuck]

Amuse me and tell me which part of the Bible I don't believe.

You play dumb as good as you twin.

 

[BrownFlush]

Amuse me and tell me which part of the Bible I don't believe?

I find it amusing that @Integrity doesn't believe in some parts of the Bible, and neither does @BrownFlush. Both just picking and choosing.

I don't believe parts of the Bible like you do would be a better way to say it.
You, @Thebrownblob, @oldngray, @Integrity have decided that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is an actual, literal, personal indwelling.
My position is the Bible teaches the HS dwells in the Christian the same way God and Jesus does. It is by the influence/instrument of the word. There is no place in the Bible where the Holy Spirit was literally "in" someone. Plenty of places where His power was in someone because the HS gave them that power. That power allowed first century Christians to preform miracles . The reason was to confirm what they were teaching and preaching was from God. Remember, the New Testament was not written yet.
I have offered plenty of scripture that proves my position.
I have asked questions about your position that no one answers. You know why no one answers? Because it proves your position cannot be right.

 

[BrownFlush]

If you've read the NT, it clearly states that the old law no longer applies.

I didn't say it didn't apply. I asked if you believed it?
Application wasn't in the comment. Belief was.

Glad to amuse you but IMO you are right about both of us.

Do you believe everything in the Bible is worthy of emulating in your own walk with God while on this earth?

NT, of course. I fall way short, however.- upschuck

"For everything that was written in the past was written for our instruction, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures, we might have hope." - Romans 15:4

 

[upschuck]

So you don't believe the OT?

Believe, not follow. Never sacrificed an animal. You?

 

[upschuck]

I didn't say it didn't apply. I asked if you believed it?
Application wasn't in the comment. Belief was.

NT, of course. I fall way short, however.- upschuck

"For everything that was written in the past was written for our instruction, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures, we might have hope." - Romans 15:4

That was in response to @Integrity . You seem a little on edge today.

 

[BrownFlush]

Believe, not follow. Never sacrificed an animal. You?

Seven Day Adventist wrong continuing to observe the Sabbath?

 

[BrownFlush]

That was in response to @Integrity . You seem a little on edge today.

Yes I know.
I feel fine.

NT, of course. I fall way short, however.

So do I.


@upschuck @Thebrownblob @oldngray @Integrity

I don't believe parts of the Bible like you do would be a better way to say it.
You, @Thebrownblob, @oldngray, @Integrity have decided that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is an actual, literal, personal indwelling.
My position is the Bible teaches the HS dwells in the Christian the same way God and Jesus does. It is by the influence/instrument of the word. There is no place in the Bible where the Holy Spirit was literally "in" someone. Plenty of places where His power was in someone because the HS gave them that power. That power allowed first century Christians to preform miracles . The reason was to confirm what they were teaching and preaching was from God. Remember, the New Testament was not written yet.
I have offered plenty of scripture that proves my position.
I have asked questions about your position that no one answers. You know why no one answers? Because it proves your position cannot be right.

Response?

 

[upschuck]

Seven Day Adventist wrong continuing to observe the Sabbath?

Don't know enough about them to decide. A lot of churches have Saturday services. That is up to them. Who am I to say Sunday is fine, but Saturday is not.

 

[upschuck]

Not sure what happened there

 

[Integrity]

If you've read the NT, it clearly states that the old law no longer applies.

Not necessarily. Some interpret it differently.

We all believe what we believe.

Call it picking and choosing call it what you want, we all do it.

Focusing on the NT is IMO fine, I believe it is most useful for some instruction in a religious and spiritual life, and my personal relationship with God