At my local it takes 10 or so year to go full time unless you win a driver positionNo I wouldn't. Most are new or don't feel like their vote matters. Mostly higher seniority FT and PT are regular voters and try to stay informed. There also is a lot of misinformation out there.
Where in the contract does it allow part time feeder driversWhen did I say I was either an officer or agent?
What are you going to do now that the master has passed and your supplement has passed?
Obviously you are a man who wants what is right. It appears that you are now, not only stuck with 22.4 drivers but Part Time Feeder drivers. Since you are such a truth seeker what will you do to expose this obvious oversight in pushing for the passage of a supplement but voting down a master?
I seem to remember getting a "creative" or two from you with no follow up. I'd be more than happy to have you show me where I'm wrong. I have zero problems admitting it, and usually thank people who take the time to straighten me out.That’s all he’s got. He never has a counter argument
I’ll straighten you out alright but first re read the posts and take a second to realize it was not you we are talking about. LOL!I seem to remember getting a "creative" or two from you with no follow up. I'd be more than happy to have you show me where I'm wrong. I have zero problems admitting it, and usually thank people who take the time to straighten me out.
Unfortunately I believe the constitution does have some defining language about a final offer being an agreement that was put to a vote. I may be wrong.Not enough of the people's votes were counted. Fixed it for you!
Until the lawsuit hits. It was never said nor eluded to that this was the final offer! Those two words, "final offer," will carry the day!
Dennis Taylor's next job will put him officially on the UPS payroll, no more money under the table or put into offshore bank accounts! Hoffa Jr. is done! He'll ride off into the sunset knowing he ed 1/2 million UPS Teamsers!
I totally agree! This is making it so easy for Sean the next election. Maybe sooner then we think!So your saying the people that didn’t vote should help determine the outcome for the majority? If you don’t vote, it shouldn’t influence the outcome. It’s being used as a yes vote essentially. Even UPS is confused by the IBT behavior. I actually love it! This will be a cakewalk for Sean now.
You would be shocked how many did...
They normally don’t vote, you are probably right.You would be shocked how many did...
260,000 full time members.
209,000 were good standing. (Who do you think wasn’t good standing)
We as the full timers are out numbered by the part timers.
Do the math. I say the part timers were the big reason we couldn’t go over the 50% member vote.
Maybe instead of factoring them out and pretending they don't exist, give them a decent job, treat them like brothers in the union, and then watch them vote and participate at the same rate as everyone else.Why should anyone in future contract voting take the time to vote?
It is quite apparent that our votes do not count when there are agendas in place.
If a 2/3 majority is needed of those votes cast, it should play both ways. 2/3 to pass 2/3 to fail.
Once part time union employees are factored out(because we all know that the majority of them do not care about contracts as they rarely make it through 2 consecutive contracts) the percentages are well above 50 %.