Really? This coming from a p-time sup wanna be manager know it all. Why are you even posting on this thread? Your in management and to stupid to realize that most of the others sups on this site are staying clear of it to allow us who are affected by it debate our points. And to answer your question not that stupid, because a sup like you would jump at this deal because its better than what you are getting now for you raise. Thats pretty sad that we are discussing turning down this deal that you pray you would just be offered!Amazing...the stupidity started at the top and rolled right on down through this thread.
How stupid are the majority of you?
First of all Brownbrowser,welcome to the browncafe.I assure you that name calling is not condoned here.Wow, Hold the insults for another site. Just because we are discussing our thoughts and feelings doesn't make us stupid. I just joined the site this evening
and certainly don't deserve to be labeled STUPID. Everyone is entitled to
there own beliefs that is what this country is based on. If you have the desire to belittle individuals to make yourself feel bigger and better than the rest of the world do so else were PLEASE.
Perfect point ds, when you negioate a contract, you have to think about 3 different groups of people. 20 to 30 year olds are all about the money, 30 to 40 year olds are about the benefits(medical,etc) and 40 plus are worried about retirement. Now you have to mix this inta a bowl ant stir it to please everyone. Not everyone will be happy but it is also about the give backs, once you give back you will probably never get it back. Not so easy to do now is it?First of all Brownbrowser,welcome to the browncafe.I assure you that name calling is not condoned here.
From what I've read,posters are simply sharing what they've heard or read about the new contract.We have no reason to disbelieve the general gist of it.
OK now on to my humble opinion.
Im a 17 yr driver in Canada.Your contract doesn't really affect me directly but does most of my friends here in the browncafe..Being that I'm getting on in years(I'm 52),and I dont understand the big desire for wage increases over the pension/health issue.UPS drivers in the USA make $4 more an hr than us.If I lived there I'd rather have a 25 cent an hour raise each year and throw the other $8 into my future.
Everyone I spoke with so far at local 804 is a resounding NO! A lot of the senior drivers want to stick around just to vote our current executive board out.....
Before i vote on any contract or anyone else . We need to hire a great law firm . One For us who will look out for us... and make sure that the teamsters can not change the contract . wht we sign is wht we get not change it in 2 yrs saying they need to cut benefits or take back the 25 in out .. The great laywer who sign famous football mates get the best contract with out changing it in the yrs that they signed the deal . like the teamsters keep screwing us ... its about time for a change .We need one because we r getting sold out by the best they already have 2 ,3 pension they don't need anymore but a exspenive bank account that they can take are money...Im just glad we have this forum to communicate to all the TEAMSTERS on what is really the truth of the contract and how it will affect ALL. The next couple of weeks should tell the tale.
Welcome brownbrowser.Im just glad we have this forum to communicate to all the TEAMSTERS on what is really the truth of the contract and how it will affect ALL. The next couple of weeks should tell the tale.