President Obama!

[outamyway]

Re: Obamanation here today

Umm, except we occasionally have people fall dead in our emergency rooms from waiting for 8 hours to see a doctor (true stories).

You seriously need to see how it's done in Canada.

You may be waiting eight hours for any kind of care or just a check up.

 

[satellitedriver]

Re: Obamanation here today

I think Obama is doing great.The health plan idea is a good idea.Let the rich pay for it.The government will run thier new health plan just fine the same way they run all thier other programs.Medicaid,Medicare,Social Security,all are just fine.I dont see why everyone is complaining.Most small companies will probably stop providing thier coverage and then we can all have the government health care.Just look at all the countries that do have free coverage like Canada and France.Its awesome over there.

Awesome,
Awe,
an emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired by authority or by the sacred or sublime.
I was in awe, when I had to take my wife into a so called emergency room in Bristol, England.
My High School had a better nurses office.
My mother was an ER nurse at Hermann Hospital and I use to visit and watch.
If the facilities and the care given under socialized medicine in England are any indication of our future, then I will truly be awed at our downturn as a nation.

 

[FedEX 4 Life]

Re: Obamanation here today

If the facilities and the care given under socialized medicine in England are any indication of our future, then I will truly be awed at our downturn as a nation.

Exactly.Please show me one example,just one,where it has been successful.Can anyone name one country?

 

[tieguy]

Re: Obamanation here today

Awesome,
Awe,
an emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired by authority or by the sacred or sublime.
I was in awe, when I had to take my wife into a so called emergency room in Bristol, England.
My High School had a better nurses office.
My mother was an ER nurse at Hermann Hospital and I use to visit and watch.
If the facilities and the care given under socialized medicine in England are any indication of our future, then I will truly be awed at our downturn as a nation.

Agreed. I have family in Germany. The health care they personally recieved was clearly inferior to the quality we have come used to.

The Caveat in this little charade to provide the 40 million americans with health will be a degradation of the quality we who have health beni's currently recieve.

In my opinion a key component of Obamas plan is his claim that he will help reduce the cost of health care. If government reduces the cost of anything then you know the quality is taking a dive.

 

[island1fox]

Re: Obamanation here today

For any "American" who honestly believes that it is better to live in France or Canada -----then that is where they should go.
Also lets clarify a few facts:
1. Obama did not inherit this economy from Bush
Welfare or to be more politically correct --entitlement programs are the major cause of the deficits.
In 1964 LBJohnson created the great society to eliminate poverty in the U.S. Instead of creating a great "safety net" for Americans that truly needed the assistance ----we have created a society of people ---who generation after generation --avoid hard work ---but wants the goverment to provide what most of us work very hard for.
In the 70's Carter created the "Community reinvestment act ----to provide House ownership for people that could not afford it.
In the ninties it was Clinton that deregulated Fannie mae and created Freddie mac
It was ACORN and the Law firm that Obama worked for that sued City Bank for not having enough Minority mortages. Banks were then "forced" to lower down payments and financial requirements.
The Govenment programs that were previousl mentioned from medicare to social security are all headed for bankruptcy !!! Look at how the government runs the Post Office !!!!
In our country the majority of us believe in a fair and necessary safety net.
The tax payer ---going broke --with welfare,food stamps, free education,FREE --FREE ---FREE---- Now "Free" health care.
Nothing is "FREE" ----Many people seem to be okay with ---let someone else pay for me and all the kids I pump out and cannot afford.
To the people that say ----Let the "RICH" pay for it -----Remember --that is a moving target ------who is rich ---250,ooo----150,000----100,000 ---75,000 ???????
Talk to any average French citizen or Canadian that work for a living ----- WELL OVER 50% THEY EARN ---FERERAL TAX-----this is before the Provincial tax and the 15% GST tax ------The workers are taxed to financial exhaustion --------the lazy and bottomfeeders continue to blood suck.
In America today ------If you work hard ---work hard ---work hard --- YOU CAN BECOME ANY THING YOU WANT TO BE -----LOOK AT OUR PRESIDENT ------A MINORITY FROM A SINGLE PARENT FAMILY -----!!!!!
America wake up ------
This ecomomy and housing crisis has been over forty years in the making-----When the Pilgrims first arrived ---Socialism was tried ---what crops were grown were put in a community"pot" ----it was a short time later it was abandoned -----many worked very hard -----others hardly worked.
We are learning the same lesson -----Many work very hard ------others want you to provide them everything from housing to food ----education to health ----does not work in long term -----take a closer look at France and Canada.
Safety net yes ------Socialism NO !!!!!!!

 

[moreluck]

Re: Obamanation here today

Anne Wortham Knows The Score


ANNE WORTHAM

Anne Wortham is Associate Professor of
Sociology at Illinois State University and continuing
Visiting Scholar at Stanford University 's Hoover
Institution. She is a member of the American Sociological
Association and the American Philosophical Association.

She has been a John M. Olin Foundation Faculty
Fellow, and honored as a Distinguished Alumni of the Year by
the National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher
Education.

In fall 1988 she was one of a select group of
intellectuals who were featured in Bill Moyer's television
series, "A World of Ideas." The transcript of her
conversation with Moyers has been published in his book, A
World of Ideas.

Dr. Wortham is author of "The Other Side of
Racism: A Philosophical Study of Black Race Consciousness"
which analyzes how race consciousness is transformed into
political strategies and policy issues.

She has published numerous articles on the
implications of individual rights for civil rights policy,
and is currently writing a book on theories of social and
cultural marginality.

Recently, she has published articles on the
significance of multiculturalism and Afrocentricism in
education, the politics of victimization and the social and
political impact of political correctness. Shortly after an
interview in 2004, she was awarded tenure.

This article by her is something.





Fellow Americans,

Please know: I am Black; I grew up in the
segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote
in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president Most
importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a
Black president to know that I am a person of worth, and
that life is worth living. I do not require a Black
president to love the ideal of America .

I cannot join you in your celebration. I
feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not
jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes.
For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have
to deny all that I know about the requirements of human
flourishing and survival - all that I know about the history
of the United States of America , all that I know about
American race relations, and all that I know about Barack
Obama as a politician. I would have to deny the nature of
the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America .

Most importantly, I would have to abnegate
my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint
down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a
century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has
no value for the success of a human life I would have to
evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on
which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it
somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million Blacks in
this country voted for a man because he looks like them
(that Blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that
they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who
voted for him because he doesn't look like them.

I would have to wipe my mind clean of all
that I know about the kind of people who have advised and
taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his
administration - political intellectuals like my former
colleagues at the Harvard University's Kennedy School of
Government.

I would have to believe that "fairness" is
equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that a man
who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a
new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest.. I
would have to accept the premise of a man that economic
prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly
believes that he can will it into existence by the use of
government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks
the standard of living of the masses can be improved by
destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.

Finally, Americans, I would have to erase
from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying
, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally
chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all
memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits,
journ alists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals
declare that capitalism is dead - and no one, including
especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that
the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality
that they want to replace with their own version of
anti-capi-talism is anything remotely equivalent to
capitalism.

So you have made history, Americans. You and
your children have elected a Black man to the office of the
president of the United States, the wounded giant of the
world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over
- and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern
must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys
have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The
self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm
moments of satisfaction for having elected a Black person.

So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural
radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast
yourselves, BlackAmerica. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton
, Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not
an individual who is qualified to be president, but a Black
man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to
- Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the
baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also
foolishly traded your freedom and mine - what little there
is left - for the chance to feel good.
There is nothing in me that can share your
happy obliviousness. God Help Us all...

Anne Wortham

 

[klein]

Re: Obamanation here today

Talk to any average French citizen or Canadian that work for a living ----- WELL OVER 50% THEY EARN ---FERERAL TAX-----this is before the Provincial tax and the 15% GST tax

Wow, wow , wow !
Where to start ?
5% Gst tax. Yes, we go to the store, and need to pay 5% extra on tax (IN Alberta). we don't have a provincial sales tax.
5% only on items that are not food related.
(Groceries = no tax). Meals in a restaurant is taxed (it's a service).

Have a paycheck infront of me:
$941.76 gross pay = $720.03 net pay
Unemployment insurance was $16.29
Canada Pension Plan $ 43.29
Tax: $162.15

Where do you get 50% from ?

And oddly enough, check out any site you wish on the net. Canada has a higher standard of living then America ! Obviosly, we don't pay 50% taxes on each paycheck !And other 15% spending the rest.

Besides, if that was the case, Canadians would be flocking across the boarder, like Mexicans do from the south.
That is not an issue. Maybe the odd few, but thats it. And it's for different reasons, then to earn good money.

 

[Babagounj]

Re: Obamanation here today

Anne Wortham Knows The Score


ANNE WORTHAM

Anne Wortham is Associate Professor of
Sociology at Illinois State University and continuing
Visiting Scholar at Stanford University 's Hoover
Institution. She is a member of the American Sociological
Association and the American Philosophical Association.

She has been a John M. Olin Foundation Faculty
Fellow, and honored as a Distinguished Alumni of the Year by
the National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher
Education.

In fall 1988 she was one of a select group of
intellectuals who were featured in Bill Moyer's television
series, "A World of Ideas." The transcript of her
conversation with Moyers has been published in his book, A
World of Ideas.

Dr. Wortham is author of "The Other Side of
Racism: A Philosophical Study of Black Race Consciousness"
which analyzes how race consciousness is transformed into
political strategies and policy issues.

She has published numerous articles on the
implications of individual rights for civil rights policy,
and is currently writing a book on theories of social and
cultural marginality.

Recently, she has published articles on the
significance of multiculturalism and Afrocentricism in
education, the politics of victimization and the social and
political impact of political correctness. Shortly after an
interview in 2004, she was awarded tenure.

This article by her is something.





Fellow Americans,

Please know: I am Black; I grew up in the
segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote
in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president Most
importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a
Black president to know that I am a person of worth, and
that life is worth living. I do not require a Black
president to love the ideal of America .

I cannot join you in your celebration. I
feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not
jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes.
For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have
to deny all that I know about the requirements of human
flourishing and survival - all that I know about the history
of the United States of America , all that I know about
American race relations, and all that I know about Barack
Obama as a politician. I would have to deny the nature of
the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America .

Most importantly, I would have to abnegate
my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint
down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a
century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has
no value for the success of a human life I would have to
evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on
which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it
somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million Blacks in
this country voted for a man because he looks like them
(that Blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that
they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who
voted for him because he doesn't look like them.

I would have to wipe my mind clean of all
that I know about the kind of people who have advised and
taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his
administration - political intellectuals like my former
colleagues at the Harvard University's Kennedy School of
Government.

I would have to believe that "fairness" is
equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that a man
who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a
new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest.. I
would have to accept the premise of a man that economic
prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly
believes that he can will it into existence by the use of
government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks
the standard of living of the masses can be improved by
destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.

Finally, Americans, I would have to erase
from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying
, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally
chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all
memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits,
journ alists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals
declare that capitalism is dead - and no one, including
especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that
the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality
that they want to replace with their own version of
anti-capi-talism is anything remotely equivalent to
capitalism.

So you have made history, Americans. You and
your children have elected a Black man to the office of the
president of the United States, the wounded giant of the
world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over
- and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern
must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys
have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The
self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm
moments of satisfaction for having elected a Black person.

So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural
radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast
yourselves, BlackAmerica. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton
, Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not
an individual who is qualified to be president, but a Black
man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to
- Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the
baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. But you have also
foolishly traded your freedom and mine - what little there
is left - for the chance to feel good.
There is nothing in me that can share your
happy obliviousness. God Help Us all...

Anne Wortham

 

[diesel96]

Re: Obamanation here today

For any "American" who honestly believes that it is better to live in France or Canada -----then that is where they should go.
This is not being patriotic, this is why Americans are known for being arrogant.

Also lets clarify a few facts:
1. Obama did not inherit this economy from Bush
Welfare or to be more politically correct --entitlement programs are the major cause of the deficits.
.....Does implementing tax cuts for the wealthy and waging unpopular wars at the same time mean anything to you. Who pays for that? CHINA......Not with love, but with interest.... Republicans enjoyed the last Eight years of control and deregulation and your on top of your soap box blaming it on LBJ,Carter, Clinton and Obama, ACORN, minorities and entitilement programs.What about the FED entrusting the capital and private markets not to act greedy and screw and mislead the consumers and taxpayers.....
What about year after year of rising spiraling cost and profit margins of Rx's and healthcare that feed into those entitlement programs. What about Reagonomics and republican idealogy of trickle down failed policies for the last 22 out of 30 years......There's a lot of facts you skip......

 

[wkmac]

Re: Obamanation here today

Where do you get 50% from ?

Hmmmm! Can I take a guess? Please! Please! Can I! Can I!

Uh Hannity or Limbaugh or O' Reilly or I know! I know! the Republican Congressional Re-election Committee talking points!


Thanks for posting the other info on deductions of the paycheck. Very informative.

Klein, something else you might do is look up how much (% wise) in total the Canadian gov't takes out in taxation from your GDP verses what the US gov't does to us. I won't say it is so because I honestly don't know but I'd not be surprised to learn when you add it all up that Canada's gov't takes out less from it's total GDP than the US gov't does from it's own. When you add in debt, the picture gets even more interesting I'm sure.

If that were true, it would prove OH SO interesting and really change the economic arguement altogether IMO. Actually make Canada more free in economic sense as it relates to total taxation of it's economy.


Hell, it'd be down right fun to be honest!


Take care and thanks again.

BTW: Do yourselves and us yanks a favor and next time we go out and start some war, tell our leaders to friend off when they come begging for help!

 

[klein]

Re: Obamanation here today

Thanks for posting the other info on deductions of the paycheck. Very informative.

Klein, something else you might do is look up how much (% wise) in total the Canadian gov't takes out in taxation from your GDP verses what the US gov't does to us. I won't say it is so because I honestly don't know but I'd not be surprised to learn when you add it all up that Canada's gov't takes out less from it's total GDP than the US gov't does from it's own. When you add in debt, the picture gets even more interesting I'm sure.

If that were true, it would prove OH SO interesting and really change the economic arguement altogether IMO. Actually make Canada more free in economic sense as it relates to total taxation of it's economy.


Hell, it'd be down right fun to be honest!


Take care and thanks again.

BTW: Do yourselves and us yanks a favor and next time we go out and start some war, tell our leaders to friend off when they come begging for help!

I forgot to defend France. They are a member of the EU (if Islandfox even know what that means). No way do they pay over 50% taxes either.
All members in the EU are subject to financing and taxation of The European Bank Central. -Even the intresst rates are regulated. But, I'm not getting into that.
Again, just look how many french citizens live in the states ? They don't come in strives either.

I did a bit of research. 16% of our GDP comes from taxes.
I left it at that.

We do get taxed on "killer items" like alcohol and cigarettes , 12 pack of good brand beer is atleast $25.00. Cigarettes about $10.00 a pack of 20. Even gasoline is higher taxed here. About 20% more then in the states.
Even though Canada is the biggest supplier of oil to the USA, by a landslide.
(many of you don't know that, thinking it's saudi arabia or Kuwait, no, it's your friends upnorth with the largest supply).
A new 3000 mile oil pipeline from Edmonton to Chicago is underway.

For any "American" who honestly believes that it is better to live in France or Canada -----then that is where they should go.
This is not being patriotic, this is why Americans are known for being arrogant.

Thats a very true statement. Obama is trying to fix that.. so other countries don't see americans as being ignorant.
But, I see, it takes more then a president to fix that.
It takes every individual american to read up, and study about other countries, before they claim how "bad" others live compared to them.


As for the war in Iraq.. Canada didn't join in... wasn't enough evidence for us, to prove weapons of massive destruction.
However, we did you a favour, and replaced the US in Afghanistan (back then), to free up more Soldiers for you to fight in Iraq.
And many Canadians aren't happy about our war in Afghanistan !
Body bags comming back, and the expendture.
But, we are difinity happy to see you back in Afghanistan and helping us out.

In closing: It'll only be a matter of another decade, until some of you realize.. holy crap. look at Canada, how good they are doing, and how high thier dollar is.
And why are they buying properties all of a sudden everywhere in America..
- That has already started, and will just continue to grow.
Since vacation properties are higher here, then in the states.

 

[moreluck]

Re: Obamanation here today

Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 5:32 PM




Ben Stein is a very sharp guy-an observer and commentator.

The American Spectator
July 24, 2009
By Ben Stein

We've Figured Him Out

Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry
to get his socialized medicine
bill passed? Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic > truths:

The American people in their unimaginable
kindness and trust voted for a pig
in a poke in 2008. They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow
better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books. They ignored his > quiet
acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, > Jeremiah Wright.

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a
student. They ignored his ultra-left record as a "community organizer,"
Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a
student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being
touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack > Obama
is a super likeable, super leftist, not a fan of this country, way, way > too
cozy with the terrorist leaders in the Middle East, way beyond
all the way into active destruction of our interests and our allies and our
future.

The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus
bill -- a great idea in theory -- was really an immense bribe to > Democrat
interest groups, and in no way an effort to help all Americans.

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means
that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the
Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do.

The American people already know that Mr.
Obama's plan to lower health costs
while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of > something
that never was and never will be -- a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free
society. Either the costs go up or the free society goes away.

These are perilous times. Mrs.. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has
given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of
the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health
care. It will be joined by controls on our
lives to "protect us" from global
warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man.

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise
and will stop him if he delays at
all in taking away our freedoms.
There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America.


Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist, and lawyer living in Beverly > Hills
and Malibu. He writes "Ben Stein's Diary" for every issue of The > American
Spectator.

 

[tieguy]

Re: Obamanation here today

Have a paycheck infront of me:
$941.76 gross pay = $720.03 net pay
Unemployment insurance was $16.29
Canada Pension Plan $ 43.29
Tax: $162.15

.

very interesting. I take it the canada pension plan is similar to our social security system at a much better price?

Perhaps the real issue is it shows how our government mismanages things they get their hands into.

 

[klein]

Re: Obamanation here today

very interesting. I take it the canada pension plan is similar to our social security system at a much better price?

Perhaps the real issue is it shows how our government mismanages things they get their hands into.

I don't know how it works in the states.
Our maximum constributions per year is roughly $1000.
Means, even if you earn twice as much (100K or 200K per year), you only constribute $1000 (think it's $1018) as of last yr.

At retirement age (65) and 40 years of constribution you're entiteled to full pension which is currently $908.75 per month. (goes up with inflation each
year). In addition to that, you can actually constribute less then 40 years, time off for childbearing or disabilty can be subtracted. With no loss to pension benefits.

**"Additionally, you might be entitled to Old Age Security payments based on your length of residency in Canada. If you have lived for 40 years in Canada (after the age of 18), you will be eligible for the full OAS payment -- $484.63/month.

**Very generous indeed. I don't think there is a country on earth that has a more generous (and sustainable) system than Canada for old-age public pensions and entitlements. "

**Taken from the magazine: Canadian Business

 

[bbsam]

Re: Obamanation here today

Lighen up, Francis.

How old are you?
If you're going to quote "Stripes", please reference it correctly or at least use quotation marks.

 

[moreluck]

Re: Obamanation here today

All opinions count...........

 

[klein]

Re: Obamanation here today

Umm, except we occasionally have people fall dead in our emergency rooms from waiting for 8 hours to see a doctor (true stories).

I give you that Mike, but America had it's cases too.
We had 2 . It happens. Esspecially, if one patient didn't even see the front desk, and didn't seek help.
Nothing different then people dying in police custody.
People can die anywhere, at anytime.
I guess if they make it just in time for a hospital bed, then it's ok.
Or people dying in ambulances, thats ok, too.
Normally, if you can drive or atleast walk into a hospital, and show no signs of dying. I guess your time was just up at that moment.
Both these people walked in alone (without family or friends).
If they would have taken an ambulance, maybe we could have saved them a few more days ?
Actually, it was a nice way to go... unexpected, and just fall dead.

 

[Babagounj]

Re: Obamanation here today

The worlds largest Ponzi scam.....US SOCIAL SECURITY.

Its broke now, yet everyone still counts it as being their last financial lifeline.

 

[island1fox]

Re: Obamanation here today

It amazes me how people can just disregard facts and then go into right or left wing rants.
1. if you American or Canadian or French or Martian --------if you think things are so much better somewhere elsewhere from where you are presently living ---go ---freedom to live wherever or pride in ones country is not "arrogance".
2. Lets see Reagan tax cuts ------Took a Carter disaster --double digit unemployment---double digit inflation and double digit interest rates --solved these problems while ending the cold war without a shot being fired --dissolved the soviet union and enabled East Germany to enjoy frredom ----Yeah --gotta agree --real BAD president.
3. deficits are caused by Politicians --REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT ---who wildly spend OUR money. Tax reductions do not cause deficits.
4. All wars are and should be unpopular ------even WW2 ---when the big evil U.S. stepped in to save Europe ---Including England and Canada (note to Klein ---- I happen to know and Love many Canadians ---when I was in France --I visited Both the American and Canadian cemetaries --it broke my heart to learn the true story of DIEPPE. ---ALSO Alberta has the lowest tax rate in Canada ----what about the rest of the country ??? Can anyone say harmonized HST at 13 % -- just the facts--also you can Google tax rates around the world ---Different European countries at different rates --France at 50 % --nothing to do with the "EU" but thanks for educating me!!
4. People that believe politicians here in the U.S. spend our money better that we can ---should voluntarily give them more .
It is simply not what gets held out of ones paycheck ---look at the complete picture ---Net taxable income --What % does the government take ? Sales tax, Sin Tax, Property tax , Car Registrations, boat registrations,
Tolls, Licenses etc etc etc ------ If you do not realize that what you work very hard to earn ------- the gov takes 60 to 70 %
Where does 50% come from ___LOOK AGAIN.
5. Our Medical system --- The best in the WORLD !!!!
The right wants to leave it alone ----the Left totally revamp without saying how it will be paid for. To me this is very simple -----
A. We do not need a 1,000 page new law that not one democrat nor Republican has read .
B. Simple one page legislation ---private insurances companies must cover all pre-existing coverage and cannot cancel a persons coverage.
Open state to state competetion to drive down cost -----on the West coast of the US ---Private insurance companies offer fullmedical ,dental and vision for the cost of one starbucks coffee per day.
Tax credit poor and disabled to cover the six bucks per day and make it mandatory --same as auto --that all Americans have coverage .
Simple -----but I AM SURE BOTH THE EXTREME RIGHT AND LEFT WILL FIND FAULT !!!!

 

[klein]

Re: Obamanation here today

It amazes me how people can just disregard facts and then go into right or left wing rants.
1. if you American or Canadian or French or Martian --------if you think things are so much better somewhere elsewhere from where you are presently living ---go ---freedom to live wherever or pride in ones country is not "arrogance".
2. Lets see Reagan tax cuts ------Took a Carter disaster --double digit unemployment---double digit inflation and double digit interest rates --solved these problems while ending the cold war without a shot being fired --dissolved the soviet union and enabled East Germany to enjoy frredom ----Yeah --gotta agree --real BAD president.
3. deficits are caused by Politicians --REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT ---who wildly spend OUR money. Tax reductions do not cause deficits.
4. All wars are and should be unpopular ------even WW2 ---when the big evil U.S. stepped in to save Europe ---Including England and Canada (note to Klein ---- I happen to know and Love many Canadians ---when I was in France --I visited Both the American and Canadian cemetaries --it broke my heart to learn the true story of DIEPPE. ---ALSO Alberta has the lowest tax rate in Canada ----what about the rest of the country ??? Can anyone say harmonized HST at 13 % -- just the facts--also you can Google tax rates around the world ---Different European countries at different rates --France at 50 % --nothing to do with the "EU" but thanks for educating me!!
4. People that believe politicians here in the U.S. spend our money better that we can ---should voluntarily give them more .
It is simply not what gets held out of ones paycheck ---look at the complete picture ---Net taxable income --What % does the government take ? Sales tax, Sin Tax, Property tax , Car Registrations, boat registrations,
Tolls, Licenses etc etc etc ------ If you do not realize that what you work very hard to earn ------- the gov takes 60 to 70 %
Where does 50% come from ___LOOK AGAIN.
5. Our Medical system --- The best in the WORLD !!!!
The right wants to leave it alone ----the Left totally revamp without saying how it will be paid for. To me this is very simple -----
A. We do not need a 1,000 page new law that not one democrat nor Republican has read .
B. Simple one page legislation ---private insurances companies must cover all pre-existing coverage and cannot cancel a persons coverage.
Open state to state competetion to drive down cost -----on the West coast of the US ---Private insurance companies offer fullmedical ,dental and vision for the cost of one starbucks coffee per day.
Tax credit poor and disabled to cover the six bucks per day and make it mandatory --same as auto --that all Americans have coverage .
Simple -----but I AM SURE BOTH THE EXTREME RIGHT AND LEFT WILL FIND FAULT !!!!

Your trying to put history into a few sentences.
Canada and the UK were right at the start of WW2.
Americans enterd Europe 1943 or 2 yrs before it was over.
Anyways, yes, the americans joining in, prevented the loss of more lives of English and Canadians, but by no means were the germans be able to take over any on of those countries.
They did bomb England with airstrikes, thats only how far it went.
Canada didn't have anything at all on thier soil.

After WW2, germany was divided into 4 sectors (french, US, British, and Russian) and so was Berlin, the city itself.
The Russians never returned thier share of Germany back to the germans (Thats how East Germany was founded, and East Berlin).
And the Russians even went further then that.. took over countries such as the Czech Republik, Hungary, Polen, Bulgaria, just to name a few, while the rest of the world just stood by).

Anyways, yes, the cold war (with the Americans playing the big brother, yes that helped, but all these "new communist created eastern countries" were going broke in time.
Polen was the first (with Lech Walesa), to say hell with those Russians, we are leaving. That created eventually a chain reaction.
Hungary tried before in 1959, but Russian tanks moved in.
In 1990, with Gorbatschow (most lienent Russian Leader, ever). He didn't interfere this time (late 80's).
Thats what started the crumble. Enough said.

Sure.I agree, we pay more taxes then the USA (our taxfreedom day is 6 weeks later then yours), but don't think for a minute that won't change.
As every US citizen, man, woman, child, is now close to $50K in goverment debt alone.
The interesst alone, will cost mega billions every year in the budgets, without paying down the debt.

As for your healthcare system : You probably do have the best doctors and hospitals in the world (You steal nurses and doctors from us, and other countries, too - because you pay them more).
But, to say it's the best "System". No it's not.
I can tell you this : It's the worlds most expensive System. (and leaves over 27% totally left out from it)