Big announcement coming in Jan

[zeev]

You do understand there are a few things going on in the world working against Express right now ? They will end eventually and Express will be just fine.
Remember , faster is the future.
They’re not automating Memphis for ground.[/

 

[zeev]

Fedex makes 60% of profits on the ground. The tariff situation is totally manufactured.

 

[Gone fishin]

Fedex makes 60% of profits on the ground. The tariff situation is totally manufactured.

But the revenue is made at Express

 

[bacha29]

But the revenue is made at Express

True but margins are the thing that drives the bus and the stock price and Ground's margins are almost double that of Express. Don't worry Express will always be around but if present trends continue it will likely be smaller operating more in a role of supporting Ground operations and paying something more along the line of what Ground contractor employed drivers make.

In keeping with that reality I sincerely hope that you Express guys can find your way to a better place.......except Dano. Nothing can be done about him..... Too many trips to the academy.

 

[Gone fishin]

True but margins are the thing that drives the bus and the stock price and Ground's margins are almost double that of Express. Don't worry Express will always be around but if present trends continue it will likely be smaller operating more in a role of supporting Ground operations and paying something more along the line of what Ground contractor employed drivers make.

In keeping with that reality I sincerely hope that you Express guys can find your way to a better place.......except Dano. Nothing can be done about him..... Too many trips to the academy.

Haha , I think we’ll be fine. Thanks tho

 

[Serf]

if present trends continue it will likely be smaller operating more in a role of supporting Ground operations

I concur.

 

[bacha29]

Haha , I think we’ll be fine. Thanks tho

Perhaps for some but for others thinking the way you do is whistling through the graveyard. This industry had the potential to get a whole lot worse before it gets a whole lot better and in an industry that is just one recession away from becoming a graveyard for scores of carriers including some big ones.

 

[bbsam]

True but margins are the thing thatdrives the bus and the stock price andGround's margins are almost double thatof Express.


is that still true?

 

[vantexan]

Perhaps for some but for others thinking the way you do is whistling through the graveyard. This industry had the potential to get a whole lot worse before it gets a whole lot better and in an industry that is just one recession away from becoming a graveyard for scores of carriers including some big ones.

And yet somehow you think they've got billions to provide high pay and benefits.

 

[bbsam]

And yet somehow you think they've got billions to provide high pay and benefits.

If they don’t, it’s their own damn fault.

 

[MAKAVELI]

And yet somehow you think they've got billions to provide high pay and benefits.

They can afford to pay everybody equally and have kept our benefits at a decent level. If they can't afford to do that than they really shouldn't be in business and need to sell it to someone that can.

 

[vantexan]

They can afford to pay everybody equally and have kept our benefits at a decent level. If they can't afford to do that than they really shouldn't be in business and need to sell it to someone that can.

But businesses don't exist to pay everyone well and provide benefits. Businesses offer such things to attract people who can help them make money. Because package delivery nationwide requires a large amount of people and competition requires holding the line on prices to be competitive, along with the fixed costs of flying most freight it makes it difficult to give employees what they want. That's the reality no one seems to want to face.

 

[Gone fishin]

Perhaps for some but for others thinking the way you do is whistling through the graveyard. This industry had the potential to get a whole lot worse before it gets a whole lot better and in an industry that is just one recession away from becoming a graveyard for scores of carriers including some big ones.

Fed ex has been through recessions , no ?

 

[59 Dano]

In keeping with that reality I sincerely hope that you Express guys can find your way to a better place.......except Dano. Nothing can be done about him..... Too many trips to the academy.

Maybe I'll get into the Bacha's Buy Here, Pay Here Academy. "If no one else trusts you, I will! I just want to sell a route and make a friend."

 

[59 Dano]

They can afford to pay everybody equally and have kept our benefits at a decent level. If they can't afford to do that than they really shouldn't be in business and need to sell it to someone that can.

Much easier, smarter, and more effective to lay people off.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Much easier, smarter, and more effective to lay people off.

Works for UPS.

 

[MAKAVELI]

But businesses don't exist to pay everyone well and provide benefits. Businesses offer such things to attract people who can help them make money. Because package delivery nationwide requires a large amount of people and competition requires holding the line on prices to be competitive, along with the fixed costs of flying most freight it makes it difficult to give employees what they want. That's the reality no one seems to want to face.

If businesses want quality workers, they have no choice but to be competitive.

 

[vantexan]

If businesses want quality workers, they have no choice but to be competitive.

By competitive I mean in prices with their competitors, not what they pay their employees.

 

[Fred's Myth]

And yet somehow you think they've got billions to provide high pay and benefits.

And somehow, you seem to believe that a union would demand the same pay that UPS pays. That's incorrect, and tunnel visioned regarding your entire employment package. An employment contract would go a long way to push back at bad management. Rate of pay is only one aspect.

 

[vantexan]

And somehow, you seem to believe that a union would demand the same pay that UPS pays. That's incorrect, and tunnel visioned regarding your entire employment package. An employment contract would go a long way to push back at bad management. Rate of pay is only one aspect.

I agree with you 100% but the line of reasoning here is that a union would give pay and benefits comparable to UPS and the only thing keeping that from happening is a lack of a union because FedEx has plenty of money to do so.