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refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Exactly.
China lied.
People died.
Trump himself was praising Xi, others were telling trump not to believe Xi, but trump kept stressing how China was doing a great job and how it would work out fine. Like if you are gonna China lied then why does trump believe those lies over what us government agencies are telling him.


Again trump’s failure is very deadly and terrible for this nation.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member


Yet there is no disputing what I laid out as trump’s failures. Again I just wish the Americans who voted for both GWBush and trump And help elect these disastrous presidents will learn something about how their choices hurt this nation.

there is no evidence the travel ban did anything. You all are think8ng about this ban incorrectly, the people who traveled back and forth from China to America were overwhelming Americans And Europeans. The travel ban didn’t Impact them at all. It failed.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Hindsight is 20/20. And what you described happened all over the world, not just here. And at the time Trump's ban was ridiculed by the media. However by the time we had a few cases in the States the virus had already blown up in China where they kept a lid on it until they couldn't hide it anymore. Too much happened to be laying it at the feet of any one individual.


The ban failed. It didn’t stop the spread of the virus. I don’t see what touting that failure gets trump fans. It was I’ll conceived. The people he needed to ban weren’t only Chinese citizens, but Americans in China, or Americans close to China or Americans overseas who could have come into contact with travelers who had been in China, etc and so on. The only way the ban could have worked was to ban all international travel period. But he didn’t do that. And the China travel ban failed to stop the spread of the virus.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Dr. Fauci: Trump China Restrictions Slowed Spread of the Wuhan Flu

Joe Biden on Trump's China travel ban:

“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,”
Dr. Fauci: Trump China Restrictions Slowed Spread of the Wuhan Flu

Joe Biden on Trump's China travel ban:

“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,”


The travel ban failed I have repeatedly laid out why and how. Without one point even being questioned.


I’ll do it again, the China travel ban failed because it did not stop all the Americans who were in China or who came into contact with others who were in China from coming back. That’s a gaping huge hole in the travel ban that prevents it from working. That’s why it failed.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
No it didn’t the virus is spreading exponentially in America. It took us a couple of months to get to 1000 deaths and 3 days to get to 2000 deaths.
The ban failed because by the time they identified the virus as new, Americans who were in China had already come back to America, and even after the travel ban, Americans were still returning from China, and finally people from other nations who were in China, went back to their home nation and then came to America before and after the travel ban, the ban failed, trump is failing.

It sure sounds like you and (others) really want more people to die and for the economy tank because of your own personal hate for Trump and /or get Biden in office. Here is a reality check, No One knew this was coming to this degree let alone the Democrats who were at the time of this outbreak were putting all their time and money into trying to impeach, they were playing the fiddle as Rome was burning. Think about his decisions early on about closed borders and homeland security before this virus hit, how many lives has he saved by having those protections in place way before the pandemic. Also think about how many more citizens would be dead if Hillary won and her open border policies were in place besides being a mouthpiece for Planned Parenthood who has killed millions of unborn children.

Study the pandemic from 1918 and get back to us on how you would of prevented this since "you know it all"...
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member

Again, that’s meaningless, where is the actual proof, what stats is he using or is he giving his opinion?
I laid out my logic as to why the China travel ban failed. It hasn’t even been questioned.
The travel ban didn’t stop Americans and other non Chinese citizens who were in China Or came into contact with another person who was in China from coming to America, and those travelers are the ones who spread the virus in America. So it failed. Do you get it.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
It sure sounds like you and (others) really want more people to die and for the economy tank because of your own personal hate for Trump and /or get Biden in office. Here is a reality check, No One knew this was coming to this degree let alone the Democrats who were at the time of this outbreak were putting all their time and money into trying to impeach, they were playing the fiddle as Rome was burning. Think about his decisions early on about closed borders and homeland security before this virus hit, how many lives has he saved by having those protections in place way before the pandemic. Also think about how many more citizens would be dead if Hillary won and her open border policies were in place besides being a mouthpiece for Planned Parenthood who has killed millions of unborn children.

Study the pandemic from 1918 and get back to us on how you would of prevented this since "you know it all"...

It doesn’t matter who knew, trump is the president and he failed. His failure is costing the lives of Americans.
His China travel Ban failed to stop the people who spread the virus in America, mainly Americans who were in China or came into contact with other travelers who were in China from coming here and spreading the virus those are the people who spread the virus in America and his travel ban didn’t prevent them from spreading it in America so trump’s China travel ban failed.

he failed to get early mass testing to stop this virus and he failed to lead on social distancing.
 
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DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
It doesn’t matter who knew, trump is the president and he failed. His failure is costing the lives of Americans.
His China travel Ban failed to stop the people who spread the virus in America, mainly Americans who were in China or cane into contact with other travelers who were in China from coming here and spreading the virus those are the people who spread the virus in America and his travel ban didn’t prevent them from spreading it in America so trump’s China travel ban failed.
Dr. Fauci: Trump China Restrictions Slowed Spread of the Wuhan Flu

Joe Biden on Trump's China travel ban:

“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, to uh, and fear mongering,”
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Dr. Fauci: Trump
[URL='https://cis.org/Arthur/Dr-Fauci-Trump-China-Restrictions-Slowed-Spread-Wuhan-Flu']Dr. Fauci: Trump China Restrictions Slowed Spread of the Wuhan Flu

China Restrictions Slowed Spread of the Wuhan Flu[/URL]


Again where is the evidence.
The travel ban didn’t prevent the people who spread the virus from coming here. It objectively failed. The virus is everywhere in America. The people who were always going to spread the virus in America were Americans in China or those who had come in constant with someone in China or non Chinese citizens who were in China or came into contact with someone in China sho went to their home nation and then came to America. the China travel ban didn’t prevent those people from spreading the virus in America. The travel ban failed.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
It doesn’t matter who knew, trump is the president and he failed. His failure is costing the lives of Americans.
His China travel Ban failed to stop the people who spread the virus in America, mainly Americans who were in China or cane into contact with other travelers who were in China from coming here and spreading the virus those are the people who spread the virus in America and his travel ban didn’t prevent them from spreading it in America so trump’s China travel ban failed.

"So What"...I asked you a question? Do I have to repeat it..

"What of you done differently if you were Trump?"
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Here is how trump failed. The China travel ban failed to keep out the people who were always going to spread the virus in America, namely American citizens Who were in China or who came into contact with someone in China as well as others who weren’t Chinese, but who were in China or came into contact with someone who had been in China, who then traveled to their home nation and then came to America.
The theory of the travel ban is to keep the virus out, those are huge holes in that theory. So the China travel ban failed.
 
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