Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

[vantexan]

Face it you pick and choose what you want to believe like everyone else on the BC and on the planet earth.

Can you prove that? What part of the New Testament am I saying I disagree with and refuse to follow?

 

[upschuck]

Commands are not the only way one establishes scriptural authority.
1 Cor. 16:2 is a command.

If you believe it is a necessity, then by all means, worship on Sundays. God is "happy" whenever we worship him.

 

[BrownFlush]

If you believe it is a necessity, then by all means, worship on Sundays. God is "happy" whenever we worship him.

Whenever and however we want, right?
Heck yeah!
You and @Integrity get to offer God whatever you want! Heck yeah! He'll like it too. Just ask Nadab and Abihu.
Don't worry what that book says! Do what you want! Do what the "feelin'" tells you.
"They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men. ”- Matt.15:9

 

[upschuck]

Whenever and however we want, right?
Heck yeah!
You and @Integrity get to offer God whatever you want! Heck yeah! He'll like it too. Just ask Nadab and Abihu.
Don't worry what that book says! Do what you want! Do what the "feelin'" tells you.
"They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men. ”- Matt.15:9

Whatever makes you feel superior.

 

[BrownFlush]

Whatever makes you feel superior.

Superior? lol
I'm humbled by the word God and submit to what it teaches.
Many don't.

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ - Matt: 7: 21-23

 

[Integrity]

We're does it say that is a "requirement "? Maybe Paul was delayed a day, and couldn't wait til the next Saturday. It doesn't say.

On that line of thought, it says you can only eat on Sundays.

The second is similar to the first fruits, don't wait to the last second.

Again, nothing saying it is a requirement.

I see your point.

 

[upschuck]

Superior? lol
I'm humbled by the word God and submit to what it teaches.
Many don't.

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ - Matt: 7: 21-23

So, what are your thoughts on what is needed to get into heaven?

Conversion
Only Sunday worship.
What else?

 

[upschuck]

I see your point.

I've heard that argument before, and it had always been very clearly stated, when it was a requirement. Not many of those in the NT. Plenty in the OT.

 

[BrownFlush]

So, what are your thoughts on what is needed to get into heaven?

Conversion
Only Sunday worship.
What else?

What else? You think there's a list? And you just check em off? That is the OT.
If I taught you what the Bible teaches that one needs to do to go to heaven on this forum, you'd claim I seen a squirrel and read very little of it.

 

[Integrity]

No comment.
Sometimes the density is too much.

GET IT....
The Bible teaches the Godhead (The Holy Spirit, God, Jesus) dwells in a Christian representatively through/by the word.
The Bible does not teach that the Godhead (The Holy Spirit, God, Jesus) dwells in anyone, and has ever dwelled in anyone literally.

I really think your lack of belief of God’s residence in you as a believer is hindering you from actually experiencing the actual presence, voice, and guidance of the Holy Spirit in your life.

I hope this is not what the Bible means by blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

It seems to me if you actually were to hear the Holy Spirit’s voice you would believe what the Bible says over what the Spirit says.

I know you’ll refute this because that is how you roll.

 

[BrownFlush]

I really think your lack of belief of God’s residence in you as a believer is hindering you from actually experiencing the actual presence, voice, and guidance of the Holy Spirit in your life.

I hope this is not what the Bible means by blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

It seems to me if you actually were to hear the Holy Spirit’s voice you would believe what the Bible says over what the Spirit says.

I know you’ll refute this because that is how you roll.

It seems to me, you know nothing and refuse to learn anything. That's how you roll.

 

[Integrity]

It seems to me, you know nothing and refuse to learn anything. That's how you roll.

Sorry you feel that way.

 

[BrownFlush]

Sorry you feel that way.

According to your reasoning, if I feel it, it must be right.

 

[Integrity]

Can you prove that? What part of the New Testament am I saying I disagree with and refuse to follow?

Your own words prove it, reread them you will see.

Do you believe the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible or inspired the writings that were written by the authors of the various manuscripts.? You won’t.

 

[upschuck]

What else? You think there's a list? And you just check em off? That is the OT.
If I taught you what the Bible teaches that one needs to do to go to heaven on this forum, you'd claim I seen a squirrel and read very little of it.

I was asking you what your list was, because you keep saying the road is narrow type stuff, if anyone disagrees with you.

 

[Integrity]

According to your reasoning, if I feel it, it must be right.

Not a true statement.

Do you believe the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible or inspired the writings that were written by the authors of the various manuscripts.?

 

[BrownFlush]

I was asking you what your list was, because you keep saying the road is narrow type stuff, if anyone disagrees with you.

I did not say the road was narrow, Jesus did.
I didn't say anything about disagreeing with me, Jesus did, though.
I did say there was no list. Because there is not.

 

[upschuck]

I did not say the road was narrow, Jesus did.
I didn't say anything about disagreeing with me, Jesus did, though.
I did say there was no list. Because there is not.

Then quit arguing about stuff that is preference.

 

[vantexan]

Your own words prove it, reread them you will see.

Do you believe the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible or inspired the writings that were written by the authors of the various manuscripts.? You won’t.

I won't what? Having both studied the Bible and having been instructed by others who've studied it much more extensively I know that the Old Law has been done away with. Please tell me what part of the New Law I disagree with? You're upset that I pointed out you think you know better what to believe over what Christ's chosen Apostles have instructed us. That's at best arrogance. At worst it's false teaching. Somewhere in there is a bit of narcissism. You can go round and round all you want but until you acknowledge the authority of God's will revealed in the New Testament you're disobedient.

 

[BrownFlush]

Then quit arguing about stuff that is preference.

I prefer the Lord's preference. Many don't.
Show me the "argumentative'' comment or comments.
Disagreeing and using scripture to support what I believe it teaches is not arguing. Especially when no one offers scripture to counter, just a...IMO. That outta take care of it.
Do what you want. Whatever you decide that makes you happy, is what makes God happy. I'm sure that's written down somewhere.