Southern Baptist Convention Throws Out Saddleback Church

[vantexan]

They are entitled to believe what they want.

But yes, if anyone is attempting to silence women from having equal say and place in any institutional religion then in my opinion they would be victims of oppression.

Even if the women believe they should remain silent also? This is where you get into pushing your modern day mores on others. No, you aren't forcing them, you're just saying you're right and they're wrong. Difference is in your case it's your opinion. In their case they are following what was specifically said in scripture. Big difference.

 

[UnionStrong]

I also don’t pretend to understand everything in the Bible. I also don’t presume to think I know better than what’s in it. I just can’t believe what I don’t believe.

Can you believe what you don’t believe?

So you pick and choose accordingly.

Carry on.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I also don’t pretend to understand everything in the Bible. I also don’t presume to think I know better than what’s in it. I just can’t believe what I don’t believe.

Can you believe what you don’t believe?

Well, there’s a good chance you don’t understand it for one. And secondly of all the stories, miracles and wonders in the Bible, this is the one thing you can’t quiet wrap your head around? do you also choose not to believe Shadrach, Meshach, and Abendigo we’re not thrown in the fire? L O L seems like that would be harder to believe me if I was picking and choosing.

 

[Integrity]

Even if the women believe they should remain silent also? This is where you get into pushing your modern day mores on others. No, you aren't forcing them, you're just saying you're right and they're wrong. Difference is in your case it's your opinion. In their case they are following what was specifically said in scripture. Big difference.

It my opinion that women should not be oppressed everywhere but especially in the institutional churches.

Even if the agree to their oppression.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[Integrity]

So you pick and choose accordingly.

Carry on.

Do you believe what you don’t believe?

 

[UnionStrong]

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Real good chance.

 

[UnionStrong]

Do you believe what you don’t believe?

That makes no sense.

 

[Integrity]

Well, there’s a good chance you don’t understand it for one. And secondly of all the stories, miracles and wonders in the Bible, this is the one thing you can’t quite wrap your head around? do you also choose not to believe Shadrach, Meshach, and Abendigo we’re not thrown in the fire? L O L seems like that would be harder to believe me if I was picking and choosing.

I understand as the Holy Spirit reveals it.

One thing? Not sure what you are talking about.

Many different literary styles in the Bible, in my opinion not all literary styles are suitable for literal interpretation.

 

[vantexan]

It my opinion that women should not be oppressed everywhere but especially in the institutional churches.

Even if the agree to their oppression.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

It's not oppression if they don't believe it is. You're trying to push your values on others. What about their values? To them it's the way things are supposed to be. I think the Amish take things to extremes. In their minds we are guilty of going past what is acceptable to God. They have rigid rules about everything. Men and women don't sit together in church. Women wear dresses. Buttons aren't allowed. While I personally think a lot of that isn't necessary they believe it is. Are they oppressed? They even allow young adults the choice to stay with it or leave. So who are we to tell them they are oppressed for having strict cultural rules?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I understand as the Holy Spirit reveals it.

One thing? Not sure what you are talking about.

Many different literary styles in the Bible, in my opinion not all literary styles are suitable for literal interpretation.

If the “Holy Spirit” tells you something that’s not biblical it’s not the Holy Spirit is some other spirit.

And a concordance is a must for translating much of the Bible

 

[UnionStrong]

If the “Holy Spirit” tells you something that’s not biblical it’s not the Holy Spirit is some other spirit.

And a concordance is a must for translating much of the Bible

He must hear voices

 

[Integrity]

That makes no sense.

Exactly.

 

[UnionStrong]

Exactly.

I guess you don’t have faith.

 

[Integrity]

If the “Holy Spirit” tells you something that’s not biblical it’s not the Holy Spirit is some other spirit.

And a concordance is a must for translating much of the Bible

IMO That would be placing the bible over God. I don’t believe as you believe regarding this.

Don’t really use our concordance much,

 

[UnionStrong]

IMO That would be placing the bible over God. I don’t believe as you believe regarding this.

Don’t really use our concordance much,

Do you hear voices?

 

[Thebrownblob]

IMO That would be placing the bible over God. I don’t believe as you believe regarding this.

Don’t really use our concordance much,

This explains everything

 

[UnionStrong]

This explains everything

He doesn’t need it, he decides what matters.

 

[vantexan]

IMO That would be placing the bible over God. I don’t believe as you believe regarding this.

Don’t really use our concordance much,

You don't seem to make the connection that the scriptures were given to us by God to guide us.

 

[Integrity]

It's not oppression if they don't believe it is. You're trying to push your values on others. What about their values? To them it's the way things are supposed to be. I think the Amish take things to extremes. In their minds we are guilty of going past what is acceptable to God. They have rigid rules about everything. Men and women don't sit together in church. Women wear dresses. Buttons aren't allowed. While I personally think a lot of that isn't necessary they believe it is. Are they oppressed? They even allow young adults the choice to stay with it or leave. So who are we to tell them they are oppressed for having strict cultural rules?

What is your point?

 

[Integrity]

He must hear voices

I don’t hear voices but I do hear from God in my spirit sometimes.

You?