After the lengthy discussions in the using your own phone thread, with so many people on board with using their phone. I thought I would add another angle for you to view it from . Let me preface by saying that because I am for following the contract, I am not anti-company. Just the opposite. I have been at the company over 25 years, and do all I can daily to contribute to its success. So lets not debate my loyalty or motives. Whenever we do things as hourly employees outside of the contract it weakens it. All the language in it has been negotiated and agreed upon by both sides. Every article in it has a story behind it. Either it was a problem or an issue at one time that had to be addressed for the benefit of the employee or the company. It may have been easy language to add, or it may have taken years or even a strike to fight for it. The point being someone else struggled and we benefit from their struggle with the language we have today. That in itself demands your respect. By no means I am saying the contract is perfect. It is ever changing. Moving forward, evolving to address not only the past issues but future issues too. Recently implemented items that some of you may remember include, 9.5, 8hr req, over 70's, pay raises, etc. So the contract is not something that a bunch of old guys wrote that has been the same for ever. If you are an hourly now, you are shaping the contract that future workers will be using. I will use the personal phone reference for this discussion but you can plug in any other activity that is done outside of the contract. Examples of which could be skipping part of your lunch, working off the clock, taking lunch after the 8th hr, making side deals with your supervisor, etc etc. The problem with doing the things that you rationalize by saying " it helps me out so I do it", is that it becomes expected by the company. They will say driver A does it why doesn't driver B? So then driver B is scrutinized because he is chooses to follow the contract. He is doing what he should, yet is viewed as a problem or a bad employee. Not because of his actions, but because of the actions of driver A who is not doing what he should be. Contract negotiations are a give and take process. The union says we would like this, and the company will say okay we will give you that in return for a change in this article or language. So for our next contract UPS may say "we want the drivers to use their own phones when needed for UPS business". And the union says no. The company then responds with "well 95% of the drivers use them now & don't have a problem with it." And then it is open for discussion. Maybe the language is added, maybe not. If not this contract maybe the next one. The company has started building its case for requiring us to use our phones. So now we are fighting not to get new language that helps us, but to KEEP the language we already HAD. And that is the problem that comes from doing your own thing, thinking only of yourself. It does not effect only you, it impacts everyone. People that work here now, and that will work here in the future. I am thankful that we can all have discussions, and express our opposing views in this forum. My intent is not to be disrespectful or obtuse to your personal situation, whatever that my be. Sometimes out of necessity our actions may at times require a selfish response. I am not speaking about those occasions. I am only asking that you take the time to contemplate ,how what you are doing on a daily basis is impacting those around you today and in the future. Peace..