Whackadoos Troll About Opioids

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Exactly what do you mean about lying to children? And fake outrage? There's a huge opioid death epidemic going on right now. We should be doing everything possible to stop that but your solution is let people do what they want to do and let them get treatment.
Programs like D.A.R.E. that tell kids drugs will ruin their lives. Fools like Sessions that treat marijuana like it's crack. Kids try it and find out it's not a big deal and any prevention goes out the window because you've lost credibility. Opiod deaths are exacerbated by the black market, unknown potency and composition of drugs, and low access to treatment. Stop imprisoning people and start treating them and you'll get better results. Allow people to seek treatment without fear of prosecution and you'll get better results. Your solution has led to the current epidemic, how's it working out?
 

BrownArmy

Well-Known Member
Exactly what do you mean about lying to children? And fake outrage? There's a huge opioid death epidemic going on right now. We should be doing everything possible to stop that but your solution is let people do what they want to do and let them get treatment.

Lulz, the current opioid epidemic has less to do with heroin and has everything to do with pharmaceutical companies pushing opiods left and right.

Pay attention man.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Trump promised to fight the opioid epidemic. What has he done? Nothing.

Instead, he is now pushing policy that wastes limited resources on cannabis prohibition in states that have legalized and regulated it.

Shameful.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Trump promised to fight the opioid epidemic. What has he done? Nothing.
What would you do?

The current opioid epidemic is caused to a great extent by law enforcement clamping down on legal dispensing of the drugs.
There is a large group of people who have pain issues relieved by opioids and they have been using them for years. A great many of them seniors but younger people as well.
Now that the squeeze is on by "The Man", these people are now paying more for illegal opioids and some of them are dying.
 

rod

Retired 22 years
Opioids do seem easy to get. Between the wife, her mother and I -I bet we have 8 or ten half used prescriptions (oxycodone, hydrocodone, some morphine pills Grandpa was given when he was dying of cancer) locked up in the home safe. One of these days I'm talking them in for disposal-------------------------------------------------------------Maybe.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Lulz, the current opioid epidemic has less to do with heroin and has everything to do with pharmaceutical companies pushing opiods left and right.

Pay attention man.
Yes, saw the 60 Minutes report. But pharmaceutical companies don't hold them down and force them to take them. You have to physically take away the drugs, prevent them being sold, do everything you can, same as heroin, etc. But some here want everything legalized, treat them after the addiction. Which is going to lead to a lot more addicts than if they have to struggle to find it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
What would you do?

The current opioid epidemic is caused to a great extent by law enforcement clamping down on legal dispensing of the drugs.
There is a large group of people who have pain issues relieved by opioids and they have been using them for years. A great many of them seniors but younger people as well.
Now that the squeeze is on by "The Man", these people are now paying more for illegal opioids and some of them are dying.
The current epidemic is primarily the responsibility of pharmaceutical companies who flood markets with huge supplies of opioids that are easy to get. And easy to get addicted to. Drug overdoses, primarily from opioids, are now the number one cause of death for those under 50. It isn't that the "Man" is clamping down, it's overdoses from easily gotten drugs.
 
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floridays

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Yes, saw the 60 Minutes report. But pharmaceutical companies don't hold them down and force them to take them. You have to physically take away the drugs, prevent them being sold, do everything you can, same as heroin, etc. But some here want everything legalized, treat them after the addiction. Which is going to lead to a lot more addicts than if they have to struggle to find it.
You're just a hater, and haters keep hateino_O
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
The current epidemic is primarily the responsibility of pharmaceutical companies who flood markets with huge supplies of opioids that are easy to get. And easy to get addicted to. Drug overdoses, primarily from opioids, are the number one cause of death for those under 50. It isn't that the "Man" is clamping down, it's overdoses from easily gotten drugs.

And that's why we need treatment centers and expanded cremation centers after legalization, it's for the children you know.:thumbup1:
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Programs like D.A.R.E. that tell kids drugs will ruin their lives. Fools like Sessions that treat marijuana like it's crack. Kids try it and find out it's not a big deal and any prevention goes out the window because you've lost credibility. Opiod deaths are exacerbated by the black market, unknown potency and composition of drugs, and low access to treatment. Stop imprisoning people and start treating them and you'll get better results. Allow people to seek treatment without fear of prosecution and you'll get better results. Your solution has led to the current epidemic, how's it working out?
Opioid deaths aren't from the black market. It's easy to O.D. on them and pharmaceutical companies are flooding markets with them. Not Mexican cartels or the Colorado Pot Growers Association. And again, pot hurts young minds, alters them. You don't account for long term damage. Just let everyone do what they want and we'll pay for their treatment according to you. Unbelievable.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And that's why we need treatment centers and expanded cremation centers after legalization, it's for the children you know.:thumbup1:
And for every center we build, every crematorium, there will be a Democrat politician skimming off the top of this latest money spending scheme. They care so much.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
Opioid deaths aren't from the black market. It's easy to O.D. on them and pharmaceutical companies are flooding markets with them. Not Mexican cartels or the Colorado Pot Growers Association. And again, pot hurts young minds, alters them. You don't account for long term damage. Just let everyone do what they want and we'll pay for their treatment according to you. Unbelievable.
Your fake moral outrage is alarming, why won't you agree to work on proven solutions?
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Opioid deaths aren't from the black market. It's easy to O.D. on them and pharmaceutical companies are flooding markets with them. Not Mexican cartels or the Colorado Pot Growers Association. And again, pot hurts young minds, alters them. You don't account for long term damage. Just let everyone do what they want and we'll pay for their treatment according to you. Unbelievable.
I’d disagree, pharmaceutical opioids are easy to pop and anyone with knowledge of them won’t OD. Pharmacy are not giving people herion laced with fentynal. That’s a big risk when buying from an unregulated black market. Most overdoses will occur when an addict relapses after time sober, they go and try to do the amount they were doing before they got clean and it’s too much. Thankfully we have life saving drugs for herion over doses. Naloxone for Opioid Overdose: Life-Saving Science
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Opioid deaths aren't from the black market. It's easy to O.D. on them and pharmaceutical companies are flooding markets with them. Not Mexican cartels or the Colorado Pot Growers Association. And again, pot hurts young minds, alters them. You don't account for long term damage. Just let everyone do what they want and we'll pay for their treatment according to you. Unbelievable.
ODs are from fentynl and heroin, both are illegal, both are very easy to obtain. They are easier to get than the legal prescription opioids that are regulated and controlled. Prohibition isn't working. Paying to imprison people isn't working. If your plan had any chance of success it might be convincing, but we've proven repeatedly that it doesn't.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
The current epidemic is primarily the responsibility of pharmaceutical companies who flood markets with huge supplies of opioids that are easy to get. And easy to get addicted to. Drug overdoses, primarily from opioids, are now the number one cause of death for those under 50. It isn't that the "Man" is clamping down, it's overdoses from easily gotten drugs.
Geezus Christopher!!!
Where do you get this crap from?
The overdoses that are not suicides are from criminally produced opioids (heroin mostly) laced and enhanced with fentanyl.
I thought you were amusing before but this is just ignorant crap you made up.
 
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