Central,Western PA and 243 count today

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Some are. I have friends that are officers that are great people and don't roll over for the company. Some that are retired are the greatest.

The rest of the compromised bas and officers legacies will speak for themselves...

and will always be hated in non RTW states.

Many non union and unionized workers have brought up this CBA. People are watching.

I thought I would never say this but... If I was in a right to work state, I would withdrawal from the union . That's how disgusted I am.

 

[Superteeth2478]

Then Hall jumps ship and ends up on the
TDU slate

Wouldn't surprise me. The thing about politics is that people don't stand behind their beliefs, they stand behind whoever is in power. They suck up to whoever is in power begging for table scraps from them like the pusillanimous lapdogs that they are.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

I thought I would never say this but... If I was in a right to work state, I would withdrawal from the union . That's how disgusted I am.

Understandable.
It may be coming.
Of course, this is prob the end of the Hoffa era.
They better hope a national rtw law doesnt come into affect before the next general election.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Understandable.
It may be coming.
Of course, this is prob the end of the Hoffa era.
They better hope a national rtw law doesnt come into affect before the next general election.

It doesn'tmatter. It's obvious that the union only cares about their survival. Not the general welfare of the members

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Don’t forget the central and others kept their great pensions.

Yes sir or if they were in the company's hands they'd all be frozen just like management's will be shortly.

 

[1989]

Yes sir or if they were in the company's hands they'd all be frozen just like management's will be shortly.

UPSers have been frozen from the central states since 2008. Is their pension not in the company hands now?

I wouldn’t mind if my pension got frozen, as long as it is never reduced.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

UPSers have been frozen from the central states since 2008. Is their pension not in the company hands now?

I wouldn’t mind if my pension got frozen, as long as it is never reduced.

Central states has a separate fund now.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

UPSers have been frozen from the central states since 2008. Is their pension not in the company hands now?

I wouldn’t mind if my pension got frozen, as long as it is never reduced.

Frozen? Is that why we got increases?

 

[1989]

Central states has a separate fund now.

Just like the fund ups wanted to start in ‘97.

 

[1989]

Frozen? Is that why we got increases?

Central states is giving out increases right now?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just like the fund ups wanted to start in ‘97.

They have a separate IBT UPS fund.

 

[1989]

They have a separate IBT UPS fund.

Which ups would have gladly agreed to in ‘97.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Which ups would have gladly agreed to in ‘97.

We had the misfortune OF believing the IBT.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Central states is giving out increases right now?

I'm not talking about CS past I'm talking about present and FUTURE pension issues.

The company is going to freeze their own employee's pensions shortly.
CS shortfall is to be made up thru this contract.
The existing ups/ibt pension plan is getting increases. We are no longer in just CS. Der.

So the point is...

That the company is freezing their own employee's pensions. If they had total control they'd eradicate ours if they could and my question is...who is the worst enemy?

 

[Frankie's Friend]

We had the misfortune OF believing the IBT.

And the misfortune of much history of not trusting the company for many reasons as well.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And the misfortune of much history of not trusting the company for many reasons as well.

It's a coin flip anymore

 

[Frankie's Friend]

It's a coin flip anymore

For now.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

For now.

We are almost at the finish line. Let these 200 stop boys wonder deal with this crap.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

We are almost at the finish line. Let these 200 stop boys wonder deal with this crap.

That's a sight to behold.
Many good stewards will be retired or have bailed out and the non voting Friends of Management groupies will fend for themselves.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That's a sight to behold.
Many good stewards will be retired or have bailed out and the non voting Friends of Management groupies will fend for themselves.

And the union will die.