Coronavirus

[rickyb]

Get a ing job and aspire to be like them. Earn your own money as the billionaires have. A hand up is good for those who need it, a hand out to others not willing to provide for themselves is not.

hand outs are great. its dangerous to give people that kind of money and power. and they make their wealth off their workers, which is a hand out.

being greedy is nothing to aspire to. they wont get into heaven.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

masks arent just for coughs and sneeze

You're going to start in? Ok. Not entirely wrong, they are barely even good for coughs and sneezes. Covering with a tissue or your elbow is better than a mask. Masks don't filter the fine particles produced from talking, or the ones that escape while coughing and sneezing. They become a nice environment for viruses and bacteria to thrive in when they get moist. Having a mask on without changing it out often, or when it causes you to touch your face with unwashed hands more often, increases your risk of getting sick. People passing by you in the grocery store won't catch covid from you unless maybe you sneeze or cough directly in their face, so masks are unnecessary there. They don't filter the fine infectious particles that build up in enclosed spaces, which is the driving conditions for the pandemic. Those happen to also be the conditions created by lock down orders. You people have everything exactly backwards, and you are so proud to show that fact off.

 

[It will be fine]

You're going to start in? Ok. Not entirely wrong, they are barely even good for coughs and sneezes. Covering with a tissue or your elbow is better than a mask. Masks don't filter the fine particles produced from talking, or the ones that escape while coughing and sneezing. They become a nice environment for viruses and bacteria to thrive in when they get moist. Having a mask on without changing it out often, or when it causes you to touch your face with unwashed hands more often, increases your risk of getting sick. People passing by you in the grocery store won't catch covid from you unless maybe you sneeze or cough directly in their face, so masks are unnecessary there. They don't filter the fine infectious particles that build up in enclosed spaces, which is the driving conditions for the pandemic. Those happen to also be the conditions created by lock down orders. You people have everything exactly backwards, and you are so proud to show that fact off.

So what exactly is under the flat plane of the Earth?

 

[rickyb]

You're going to start in? Ok. Not entirely wrong, they are barely even good for coughs and sneezes. Covering with a tissue or your elbow is better than a mask. Masks don't filter the fine particles produced from talking, or the ones that escape while coughing and sneezing. They become a nice environment for viruses and bacteria to thrive in when they get moist. Having a mask on without changing it out often, or when it causes you to touch your face with unwashed hands more often, increases your risk of getting sick. People passing by you in the grocery store won't catch covid from you unless maybe you sneeze or cough directly in their face, so masks are unnecessary there. They don't filter the fine infectious particles that build up in enclosed spaces, which is the driving conditions for the pandemic. Those happen to also be the conditions created by lock down orders. You people have everything exactly backwards, and you are so proud to show that fact off.

hte point of lockdown is to not overwhelm the hopsital system , wihch america has failed to do.

What to Know Now About Masks and Coronavirus - Consumer Reports

Guidance on face mask use for the coronavirus may be shifting because, in large part, we can’t always tell who is ill and who isn't. CR sorts through the conflicting advice.

www.consumerreports.org

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

So what exactly is under the flat plane of the Earth?

 

[Poop Head]

hand outs are great. its dangerous to give people that kind of money and power. and they make their wealth off their workers, which is a hand out.

being greedy is nothing to aspire to. they wont get into heaven.

Wwwwwwwow

 

[vantexan]

hand outs are great. its dangerous to give people that kind of money and power. and they make their wealth off their workers, which is a hand out.

being greedy is nothing to aspire to. they wont get into heaven.

Billionaire on Judgement Day: I created thousands of jobs. I created wealth so that millions of investors could increase their wealth and retire. And my foundation gave tens of millions to good causes. And through it all I gave all the credit to you Lord.

Ricky on Judgement Day: I belittled the efforts of everyone who didn't do as I said do. Where's my free lunch?

 

[Benben]

Like tru

Get a ing job and aspire to be like them. Earn your own money as the billionaires have. A hand up is good for those who need it, a hand out to others not willing to provide for themselves is not.

Like trump? Like the Koch's? Like the Waltons?

Grow up! This mythic "billionaires made their own way" is horse shi t and you damn well know it!!

I bet you a pay check you know 100x's more who inherited their wealth, had their college paid for by daddy even had their first cars given to them in their 16th birthdays than you know people with $10+ million actually self made!

You know, the silver spoon, trust fund babbies.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Like tru
Like trump? Like the Koch's? Like the Waltons?

Grow up! This mythic "billionaires made their own way" is horse shi t and you damn well know it!!

I bet you a pay check you know 100x's more who inherited their wealth, had their college paid for by daddy even had their first cars given to them in their 16th birthdays than you know people with $10+ million actually self made!

You know, the silver spoon, trust fund babbies.

You are going off the deep end now ... sounding like @rickyb!
That's not a good thing!
Jerk off or sumtin before you blow a gasket ... or @Indecisi0n!

 

[vantexan]

Like tru
Like trump? Like the Koch's? Like the Waltons?

Grow up! This mythic "billionaires made their own way" is horse shi t and you damn well know it!!

I bet you a pay check you know 100x's more who inherited their wealth, had their college paid for by daddy even had their first cars given to them in their 16th birthdays than you know people with $10+ million actually self made!

You know, the silver spoon, trust fund babbies.

So?

 

[rickyb]

Billionaire on Judgement Day: I created thousands of jobs. I created wealth so that millions of investors could increase their wealth and retire. And my foundation gave tens of millions to good causes. And through it all I gave all the credit to you Lord.

Ricky on Judgement Day: I belittled the efforts of everyone who didn't do as I said do. Where's my free lunch?

what does religion say about greed and the rich man?

 

[rickyb]

You're going to start in? Ok. Not entirely wrong, they are barely even good for coughs and sneezes. Covering with a tissue or your elbow is better than a mask. Masks don't filter the fine particles produced from talking, or the ones that escape while coughing and sneezing. They become a nice environment for viruses and bacteria to thrive in when they get moist. Having a mask on without changing it out often, or when it causes you to touch your face with unwashed hands more often, increases your risk of getting sick. People passing by you in the grocery store won't catch covid from you unless maybe you sneeze or cough directly in their face, so masks are unnecessary there. They don't filter the fine infectious particles that build up in enclosed spaces, which is the driving conditions for the pandemic. Those happen to also be the conditions created by lock down orders. You people have everything exactly backwards, and you are so proud to show that fact off.

Wear a face covering. The new advice from the CDC on face masks is voluntary. The agency says the non-medical coverings can be "basic cloth or fabric masks." The New York City Health Department, which recently put out a directive to citizens to cover their faces when outside their home, defines a face covering as "any well-secured paper or cloth (like a bandana or scarf) that covers your mouth and nose," and offers best practices for how to put it on, wear it, and remove it.


It's not necessary to use surgical masks or N-95 respirators, the CDC stresses. "Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders," the agency says.

How to Protect Yourself From Coronavirus When Grocery Shopping - Consumer Reports

Consumer Reports tells you how to protect yourself from coronavirus when grocery shopping, sharing precautions to take whether you shop in-store or online.

www.consumerreports.org

 

[vantexan]

what does religion say about greed and the rich man?

A greedy rich man is in trouble. All depends on how he handles his money. Most of the great men in the Old Testament were wealthy.

 

[refineryworker05]

no doubt in my mind

Yeah, I supported President B. Obama and B. Clinton, in stark contrast to those who supported GWbush and trump. We will see how their presidencies are judged by future generations.

 

[refineryworker05]

Lowering taxes for starter. That caused an economic boom that led to more jobs. That lifts people up.

Not reality. The last two republican presidents have presided over recessions. Horrible economies. In fact, the data shows that the economy does better under democratic presidents.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Wear a face covering. The new advice from the CDC on face masks is voluntary. The agency says the non-medical coverings can be "basic cloth or fabric masks." The New York City Health Department, which recently put out a directive to citizens to cover their faces when outside their home, defines a face covering as "any well-secured paper or cloth (like a bandana or scarf) that covers your mouth and nose," and offers best practices for how to put it on, wear it, and remove it.


It's not necessary to use surgical masks or N-95 respirators, the CDC stresses. "Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders," the agency says.

How to Protect Yourself From Coronavirus When Grocery Shopping - Consumer Reports

Consumer Reports tells you how to protect yourself from coronavirus when grocery shopping, sharing precautions to take whether you shop in-store or online.

www.consumerreports.org

I've already explained the point behind the cloth covering recommendation. They chose to recommend the face coverings to give people among the general public, who were already convinced that masks help, something to use so they wouldn't hoard the n95 masks that could actually help medical staff, because they have a chance to use them properly.

That recommendation was picked up by the state health agency and they ran with it, turning a voluntary recommendation into a mandate. This evidenced by the numerous articles and commentators referring to the "fact" that the CDC only recommended the general public not wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic because of the mask shortage for medical workers. This is a lie, as evidenced by the fact that CDC and WHO had never recommended mask wearing among the general public. This is supported by the 70 years of studies and research that have concluded that there is insignificant evidence that masks slow the spread of respiratory illness.

I've said it before. The entire mask recommendation is based on two fallacious ideas:
1) something is better than nothing.
2) if some is good, more is better.

So, long term research results in concluding masks don't help, and it has also been established by epidemiologists and respiratory specialists that improper use of masks (which almost everyone practices) increases risk of infection. They don't help and have the potential to hurt. Why would anyone recommend their use for the general public.

I am getting tired of rehashing the facts for those of you science illiterate folks out there but I'll keep at it. Maybe someone might learn something.

 

[newfie]

Yeah, I supported President B. Obama and B. Clinton, in stark contrast to those who supported GWbush and trump. We will see how their presidencies are judged by future generations.

you might as well have supported Bush too. same policies as the two you supported. Bush is not in sharp contrast . Trump is and will either go down as the president who saved the republic from extreme liberalism or the last semi conservative president before we fell down the liberal black hole.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

So what exactly is under the flat plane of the Earth?

Didn't you say you believed it was a giant tortoise? I don't go in for that nonsense myself, but I respect your right to believe what you want.

 

[newfie]

Not reality. The last two republican presidents have presided over recessions. Horrible economies. In fact, the data shows that the economy does better under democratic presidents.

liberal generated data does indeed show that. Clinton only had to get shut down by a republican congress multiple times before he finally adjusted his failed economic policies .

Reagan and Trump achieved economically successful results that no dem thought possible.
Democrats are legends in their own minds only

 

[rickyb]

I've already explained the point behind the cloth covering recommendation. They chose to recommend the face coverings to give people among the general public, who were already convinced that masks help, something to use so they wouldn't hoard the n95 masks that could actually help medical staff, because they have a chance to use them properly.

That recommendation was picked up by the state health agency and they ran with it, turning a voluntary recommendation into a mandate. This evidenced by the numerous articles and commentators referring to the "fact" that the CDC only recommended the general public not wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic because of the mask shortage for medical workers. This is a lie, as evidenced by the fact that CDC and WHO had never recommended mask wearing among the general public. This is supported by the 70 years of studies and research that have concluded that there is insignificant evidence that masks slow the spread of respiratory illness.

I've said it before. The entire mask recommendation is based on two fallacious ideas:
1) something is better than nothing.
2) if some is good, more is better.

So, long term research results in concluding masks don't help, and it has also been established by epidemiologists and respiratory specialists that improper use of masks (which almost everyone practices) increases risk of infection. They don't help and have the potential to hurt. Why would anyone recommend their use for the general public.

I am getting tired of rehashing the facts for those of you science illiterate folks out there but I'll keep at it. Maybe someone might learn something.

to be fair one of the articles from consumer reports said masks were mixed leaning towards recommending them.

a conservative said either we wear a mask and dont social distance, or social distance and dont wear a mask. then someone compared it to wearing a seatbelt and following hte speed limit LOL