Johney
Well-Known Member
So if a driver can only run 10 air stops now you don't think management will give them 18-20 air stops to run if they leave earlier? Why put an A.M. air driver on? Not here.
Earlier start times
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Almost all of the air driving jobs here are gone. It's cheaper to pay overtime instead of benefits , vacation, and paid holidays
barnyard
KTM rider
Currently, my Orion time is so tight, that it will always have me coming back to deliver ground NEXT DOOR to a house that I delivered NDA. My worst plan had me delivering NDA and then delivering the ground later in the day. 1/2 hour earlier start time would take care of that.
Most days, by the time I leave the building, meet another driver that starts early for EAMs, I have less than 55 minutes to deliver NDA.
I would not have to change any of my pick up times and it would be easier to stay under 9/5.
One thing that Orion has shown me is how much time extra miles cost me. Over the course of a day, I average 12-13 mph. If I have to go back to 2 neighborhoods that I could not clean up and that equals 5 miles, that is 30 minutes added to my day. Most days, I am 10-18 miles over Orion plan, that is an extra hour plus on my day. Those miles are added because I either could not follow trace because of NDA or reducing resi backs (I avoid 10-15 backs a day that Orion would have me do) or changing when I do the pick ups because Orion has me doing 1550 pick ups at 11a. It also does not help that we have an 850 start and the bosses have our Lv bldg time at 855. 910 is our most frequent lv time, so we are 15 minutes behind before we even leave the building. Not to mention digging for mid section 6 packages in a bricked out car.
I have never understood why my bosses cannot enter honest numbers into Orion. Honest numbers would produce realistic plans that could actually be followed. Following the plan would result in less over miles and less over allowed and higher morale. I am at the place where I HATE going in. Every day is the same BS and there is not one thing that I can do to make it better. I have zero input into the success or failure of my day.
dookie stain
Cornfed whiteboy
Lol...we start at 830 and finish loading our trucks til 915
My Hub is about two miles South of the Atlanta Airport Gateway, air gets to my building around 6:30AM. Our Preload still goes down dirty with a 9:00 start time, they can't keep Preloaders. The new automated small sort started in December only contributes to problems, they started bagging smalls to each route. Instead of loading smalls throughout the sort they send a bunch of bags at the end. Too many oversize/irregulars add to the chaos. An earlier start time for the Preloaders, getting Feeder loads in earlier, and adequate staffing is the only way to move up start times. Fedex gets on the road 7:30-8AM everyday around here, but UPS can't duplicate that.
barnyard
KTM rider
Around here, FEG is on road about 7a. They are delivering near my house by 8a. FEE is on road about the same time as we are and it sounds like they have the same airport delays that we have.
At PCM, the center manager frequently blames late feeder loads. We get 2 air shuttles in the morning, if the 2nd one is not to our building until 8:40, there is no way we are leaving till 9:15.
In my building, pushing feeders back 30 minutes will mean downtime waiting for air. Our 1st shuttle is rarely at our building before 8a. All of our air needs to be at our building before 750 if we are going to have an 820 start time.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Locally Express has pushed their air pull times back by a couple of hours.
They are on road about the same time while Ground has at least 1-2 hours on us.
They are on road about the same time while Ground has at least 1-2 hours on us.
ManInBrown
Well-Known Member
You’re way overthinking it. It’s not your problem. Orion is pure trash. It’s there problem, not yours. You get paid by the hour
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Everything would be adjusted.
brown metal coffin
Well-Known Member
Heard today that in May driver start times are moving back 30 minutes earlier nationwide and that the planes will be landing an hour earlier. With this We have to get the air back earlier because the air sort will shut down 30 minutes earlier in the evening as well. Anyone else hear this?
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Today the drivers were all loading cars after 9am and there was still at least 15-20 minutes left until they could leave. The air comes a bit late but even so, the ground work still would have never been completed had the air arrived 30 minutes earlier. Even if air arrives at the hubs and centers earlier, I doubt start times will be pushed back much, unless everything is earlier.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
We've been brining air in earlier for months. Start times haven't changed one bit.
Delivery!!!
Well-Known Member
We were also told this last week.
eats packages
Deranged lunatic
Air was done and in our bins at 7:45... Too bad I still don't finish up until 8:45 at the earliest.
Plenty of routes are wrapped by the drivers until 9:15. Some preloaders are just happy to be sent home before someone gets a good look at their load.
Plenty of routes are wrapped by the drivers until 9:15. Some preloaders are just happy to be sent home before someone gets a good look at their load.
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