FedEx Express Peak (on topic!!)

[Fred's Myth]

You’re right, it’s probably better to have a large network of small companies that are nimble and responsive to specific geographies and labor markets.

With inefficiency built right in to the DNA? No.

There was a time, years ago, when station management had the flexibility to implement procedures that made sense for their market, and which other stations could replicate locally, if they were applicable. Thornton made the system inflexible, because he was too much a control freak to delegate any authority to those who had boots on the ground. The result is a system that is so dysfunctional that in order to make a profit, it has to squeeze it out of their employees benefits.

But, hey, no union that we would be totally incapable of coping with!

That's a WIN, right?

 

[Cactus]

There was a time, years ago, when station management had the flexibility to implement procedures that made sense for their market, and which other stations could replicate locally, if they were applicable. Thornton made the system inflexible, because he was too much a control freak to delegate any authority to those who had boots on the ground. The result is a system that is so dysfunctional that in order to make a profit, it has to squeeze it out of their employees benefits.

Putting Matt Thornton in charge was one of the biggest mistakes the company ever made for the reasons above. The guy has no understanding of how to properly service customers and has no idea of how to work with people. He’s done irreparable damage and is unwilling to change (wherever he is now.)

 

[Fred's Myth]

You’re right, it’s probably better to have a large network of small companies that are nimble and responsive to specific geographies and labor markets.

That would be incorrect.

Redundancies are not efficient.

Your rogue companies are destroying the FedEx brand as we speak.

The UPS model supports high wages. Your 'business' is anachronistic and would be relegated to the waste heap. I understand your self-serving position.

 

[It will be fine]

That would be incorrect.

Redundancies are not efficient.

Your rogue companies are destroying the FedEx brand as we speak.

The UPS model supports high wages. Your 'business' is anachronistic and would be relegated to the waste heap. I understand your self-serving position.

The UPS model has a lot of waste built in. They don’t need to pay the wages they do across the country. They could get the same quality of work for a much lower labor cost in many markets.

 

[Cactus]

The UPS model has a lot of waste built in. They don’t need to pay the wages they do across the country. They could get the same quality of work for a much lower labor cost in many markets.

Do you want to go to the next union meeting at the local hall and repeat that?

 

[Fred's Myth]

The UPS model has a lot of waste built in. They don’t need to pay the wages they do across the country. They could get the same quality of work for a much lower labor cost in many markets.

Change your tag to Robber Baron.

 

[59 Dano]

Just like every other idea FedEx management comes up with, the implementation is one dimensional. Past that point, solutions are reactive and dysfunctional. Some day, maybe they’ll design a plan that is complete from start to finish, and doesn’t dissolve into chaos because there is no follow through.

You guys are free to step up with your contributions.

 

[Gone fishin]

The UPS model has a lot of waste built in. They don’t need to pay the wages they do across the country. They could get the same quality of work for a much lower labor cost in many markets.

That’s ridiculous, why would you think that

 

[59 Dano]

With inefficiency built right in to the DNA? No.

There was a time, years ago, when station management had the flexibility to implement procedures that made sense for their market, and which other stations could replicate locally, if they were applicable. Thornton made the system inflexible, because he was too much a control freak to delegate any authority to those who had boots on the ground. The result is a system that is so dysfunctional that in order to make a profit, it has to squeeze it out of their employees benefits.

They had that flexibility before and during Thornton. He's long gone... and they still have it.

 

[It will be fine]

That’s ridiculous, why would you think that

It’s reality. UPS wastes resources paying workers in boofoo Alabama the same as workers in NYC. The labor markets are very different, workers are cheaper where the cost of living is cheaper. That’s not really debatable.

 

[Gone fishin]

It’s reality. UPS wastes resources paying workers in boofoo Alabama the same as workers in NYC. The labor markets are very different, workers are cheaper where the cost of living is cheaper. That’s not really debatable.

Then why don’t they just offer 12 dollars an hour. Because no one would apply. The same reason people get hired at express and leave when they find out they won’t top out. There’s easier jobs

 

[It will be fine]

Then why don’t they just offer 12 dollars an hour. Because no one would apply. The same reason people get hired at express and leave when they find out they won’t top out. There’s easier jobs

They have a union that negotiated a national contract. That reality doesn’t change the fact that it’s a waste of the company’s resources.

 

[59 Dano]

Then why don’t they just offer 12 dollars an hour. Because no one would apply. The same reason people get hired at express and leave when they find out they won’t top out. There’s easier jobs

Yet there's Ground, with guys getting paid half of what a UPS guy gets and nowhere near the benefits, and people apply!

 

[Gone fishin]

Yet there's Ground, with guys getting paid half of what a UPS guy gets and nowhere near the benefits, and people apply!

Ground is a revolving door and you don’t get near the quality as express or ups

 

[Gone fishin]

They have a union that negotiated a national contract. That reality doesn’t change the fact that it’s a waste of the company’s resources.

But yet ups is still very profitable and every company has waste

 

[Operational needs]

This is not a Ground or UPS thread. No one cares. Plenty of other threads for all that. This is an Express Peak thread.

 

[Gone fishin]

This is not a Ground or UPS thread. No one cares. Plenty of other threads for all that. This is an Express Peak thread.

Peaks over

 

[Operational needs]

Peaks over

Tell that to the people who didn’t get their packages today because we brought back unattempted freight.

 

[Star B]

whats the word on how awesome today is going to be?

 

[Cactus]

It’s reality. UPS wastes resources paying workers in boofoo Alabama the same as workers in NYC. The labor markets are very different, workers are cheaper where the cost of living is cheaper. That’s not really debatable.

If anyone is real horny for cheap labor, it would be you. Why don’t you go down there and recruit?