Preload Pay - 2018 Contract (On Topic)

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Also speaking of the last contract, it was voted down twice. Only for are union to push it through. What good is a vote if it rammed through anyways

The NMA passed on the first ballot.

 

[anHOURover]

The NMA passed on the first ballot.

Nma can’t take effect till all supplements are yes
FACT
we can play this game all night

 

[brownIEman]

Management says all Union pay is not warranted. We should all be paid $10/hr or less so they could be paid more. What side of the fence are you on?

In 23 years with UPS, 15 of it in management, I never heard a single member of management express this belief.

No wonder you hate management so much. You've made them up to be evil scum based not on their actual attitudes and actions but on your own fantasies.

 

[km3]

In 23 years with UPS, 15 of it in management, I never heard a single member of management express this belief.

No wonder you hate management so much. You've made them up to be evil scum based not on their actual attitudes and actions but on your own fantasies.

To be fair, he has stated in the past that they took away the extra dollar for preloaders in his local. Taking away an entire dollar per hour for one of the more difficult jobs in this place would leave a bitter taste in my mouth too.

 

[PT Car Washer]

In 23 years with UPS, 15 of it in management, I never heard a single member of management express this belief.

No wonder you hate management so much. You've made them up to be evil scum based not on their actual attitudes and actions but on your own fantasies.

I do not hate all management, but 40 years of experience has left a bitter taste in my mouth. From PT little hitler sups to revenge seeking junior managers. There have been many more sups and managers who have earned my respect then the little hitlers. It is too bad that UPS nurtures this poison management style.

 

[CoolStoryBro]

12 an hour to start. 50 cent raise every 6 months. General wage increase after 4 years. Higher starting wage in the higher COL metro areas.

 

[brownIEman]

I do not hate all management, but 40 years of experience has left a bitter taste in my mouth. From PT little hitler sups to revenge seeking junior managers. There have been many more sups and managers who have earned my respect then the little hitlers. It is too bad that UPS nurtures this poison management style.

I can agree with that

 

[wide load]

Also speaking of the last contract, it was voted down twice. Only for are union to push it through. What good is a vote if it rammed through anyways

Incorrect information. The supplements did not pass. The NMA passed on the first vote. This is a common mistake.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Incorrect information. The supplements did not pass. The NMA passed on the first vote. This is a common mistake.

I believe most members would not see that as a distinction.

 

[wide load]

I believe most members would not see that as a distinction.

But it’s the truth.

 

[Yolo]

Minimum wage with no benefits. Plain and Simple!

 

[PT Car Washer]

Minimum wage with no benefits. Plain and Simple!

Several states and cities have raised the minimum wage for 2018 so there is hope for a higher starting wage.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Incorrect information. The supplements did not pass. The NMA passed on the first vote. This is a common mistake.

Except they couldn't enact the new nma for a few months until all the supplements were finalized. I remember I got a decent sized back-pay check.

 

[Griffin1820]

15 is the minimum wage in many areas already. If Teamsters cant get a 15 starting wage then weve failed!!!!

 

[wide load]

Except they couldn't enact the new nma for a few months until all the supplements were finalized. I remember I got a decent sized back-pay check.

You would be correct in your explanation.

 

[wide load]

15 is the minimum wage in many areas already. If Teamsters cant get a 15 starting wage then weve failed!!!!

Does the starting wage really matter as much as where you end up?

 

[Griffin1820]

Does the starting wage really matter as much as where you end up?

Both matter equally

 

[wide load]

Both matter equally

Equally? So if you start at $20 and in 4 years end at $24 is the same as starting at $12 and ending at $36.66??
I’ll always take the higher top out EVERY TIME!

 

[Griffin1820]

Equally? So if you start at $20 and in 4 years end at $24 is the same as starting at $12 and ending at $36.66??
I’ll always take the higher top out EVERY TIME!

In our hub we dont have any wage progression to top rate for preloaders like the driver progression that im aware of so im not sure i understand where your coming from. Right now its what start at 10 and 4 year progression to like 12.50? But if your referring to the wage pression than yeah start at 15 get .5 to 1 per year and continue getting the same raise

 

[wide load]

In our hub we dont have any wage progression to top rate for preloaders like the driver progression that im aware of so im not sure i understand where your coming from. Right now its what start at 10 and 4 year progression to like 12.50? But if your referring to the wage pression than yeah start at 15 get .5 to 1 per year and continue getting the same raise

Your focus should be full time.