Steward protecting drunk

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Molon Labe Forever, Jan 4, 2020.

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Are Unions ethical?

  1. Yes, initiating violence is how we roll

    35.5%
  2. Yes, blackmailing managment is okay

    45.2%
  3. No, violating the non aggression principle is never acceptable

    19.4%
  1. Proud To Be A Scab

    Proud To Be A Scab Commie Unionists are Traitors

    So...there's a drunk on the preload.

    Wreaks of alcohol.
    Carries a flask.
    Has a hard time seeing package labels.
    Nearly runs over employees in the parking lot while coming into work.
    Boasts about his alcoholism.
    Admits to being under the influence of alcohol and cannabis while on the clock. etc.

    Management wants him gone, however the union steward is threatening reprisal via grievance against management's actions if they fire the belligerant drunk.

    I've already let HR know and they became defensive the moment I mentioned the steward defending the drunk. The HR rep implied I was a conspiracy theorist (I go from calm to enraged like a 3000hp dragster when called that) for even mentioning that the steward is defending the drunk from being fired.

    What gives? The drunk at work poses a danger to the workers. He's been arguing with several preloaders. Not one preloader has anything good to say about him. The preload general consensus is they want him gone. Management wants him gone.

    The only reason why he's allowed to continue working while drunk is because he's a gang member (union member) and the steward has been very intimidating via raising his voice and threatening grievances if management does their job of employment termination like they're supposed to.
     
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  2. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Your poll sucks. How about the following answer:
    Yes, it is the stewards JOB to defend the members.
     
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  3. Proud To Be A Scab

    Proud To Be A Scab Commie Unionists are Traitors

    You mean it's their JOB to protect dangerous drunks
     
  4. just chillin'

    just chillin' Rest in peace wooba

    the union and management need to come together to get this person some help. in my 30 years ive seen quite a few flame out but ive also seen more than a few battle there demons and come through ok and continue to be ok
     
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  5. Proud To Be A Scab

    Proud To Be A Scab Commie Unionists are Traitors

    Thanks for the mature and reasonable reply.

    You must be an adult
     
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  6. just chillin'

    just chillin' Rest in peace wooba

    only on the clock :peaceful:
     
  7. DRporch

    DRporch Active Member

    Sounds like you have an amazing steward. It’s his job to protect you no matter who you are or what you go through.
     
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  8. Proud To Be A Scab

    Proud To Be A Scab Commie Unionists are Traitors

    You're joking, right?

    He used to trash talk about the drunk all the time. Now that the belligerent drunk is a gang member, the steward pretends he sees nothing wrong at all with the other guy acting the way he does...

    Mind you, the other union members including drivers want the union steward removed from his position as well. Who really knows why he's still the steward.

    Maybe it's "union tactics as usual" but that's me just being a crazy conspiracy theorist
     
  9. OrioN

    OrioN double tap o da horn dooshbag

    Then Stewart should be stepping up and get that guy to rehab STAT

    is he a long time union dues member?
     
  10. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Why do you suppose management isn't trying very hard to get rid of someone who is (according to you) so visibly impaired? Should be pretty easy IF what you say is true.
     
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  11. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    PS, don't message me your crap. You can keep it public.
     
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  12. Unfortunately I've seen a few stick around for some reason. They eventually got canned but I really never understood why nobody did anything about it.
     
  13. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I'm not going to look it up right now, but I believe management only needs two trained witnesses to start the process.
     
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  14. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    Well, at least you know what to get the guy for Xmas next year
     
  15. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    give me a break.

    if the company wants him gone.......he's gone.
     
  16. Op, are you a gang member also?
     
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  17. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    OP, have you reported this to the Safety Committee?
    Or are they gang members too?
     
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  18. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    why waste your time on this? can't stand anti-union employees. they are all the same. blaming everyone else and then crying to the union begging for help when they get in trouble.
     
  19. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Perhaps. Staff Member


    I'm guessing you aren't a "gang" member.
     
  20. Big Arrow Down...D

    Big Arrow Down...D Leave the gun,take the cannoli

    How do u do it?
     
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