My 81 year old father , Korean War vet , was asleep at 4 am earlier this year at home with my mother when their house was broken into by two armed men wearing ski masks who had cut the phone lines.
My father met them in the kitchen with his own pistol. They fought with him while my mother escaped to get help. They couldn't get dad down but they did make him drop his pistol, he got into the hallway and grabbed a shotgun from above the doorway
The two men took off and dad shot them both as they crossed the yard. They were captured later that day and the pellets in them were the best evidence you could get. They pled guilty and were sentenced to 12 years last month.
Moral of this story... don't break into the home of an NRA member who at 81 years old can still kick your ass.
Better yet, it does seem "KIND OF" cowardly to break into an elderly couples house to do "whatever" it is they planned to do in the first place. Their getting shot was the consequence of their own stupity, was it not?It does seem rather cowardly to shoot people in the back as they are escaping.
That may be a good question Stug. However, I'm thinking the DA making that statement about area knowledge prolly has little UPS knowledge. The question I would be asking if I were the DA is did he ever deliver the area where the two women were killed. If not, the area knowledge thing is irrelevant.Better yet, it does seem "KIND OF" cowardly to break into an elderly couples house to do "whatever" it is they planned to do in the first place. Their getting shot was the consequence of their own stupity, was it not?
Anyways, back to the topic
"This man was a UPS driver. He knew the routes, he knew the neighborhood and he was able to case where he was able to attack," said criminal profiler Pat Brown.
Do you think this guy became a UPS'er for just this reason, or did he become a serial killer afterward?
It does seem rather cowardly to shoot people in the back as they are escaping.
Maintenance Worker?"This man was a UPS driver. He knew the routes, he knew the neighborhood and he was able to case where he was able to attack," said criminal profiler Pat Brown.
What a crock. Let's start a panic.
"This man was a (Insert occupation). He knew the routes, he knew the neighborhood and he was able to case where he was able to attack," said criminal profiler Pat Brown.
- UPS driver
- letter carrier
- trash collector
- milk man
- meter reader
- door to door salesman
- paper boy
- fireman
- dog walker
- census taker
- lion tamer
- pizza delivery man
"This man was a UPS driver. He knew the routes, he knew the neighborhood and he was able to case where he was able to attack," said criminal profiler Pat Brown.
What a crock. Let's start a panic.
"This man was a (Insert occupation). He knew the routes, he knew the neighborhood and he was able to case where he was able to attack," said criminal profiler Pat Brown.
- UPS driver
- letter carrier
- trash collector
- milk man
- meter reader
- door to door salesman
- paper boy
- fireman
- dog walker
- census taker
- lion tamer
- pizza delivery man
Maintenance Worker?
Exactly! He could have been any occupation.street person
drug dealer
cop
repo person
Or none at all, if you know who I mean......just sayinExactly! He could have been any occupation.
Yeah, who needs laws. If someone breaks into my house I should just kill them, even if they just want my stuff and don't want me dead.The larger of the two men (6 ft, 275 pounds) grabbed my father from behind and tried to force him to drop his pistol. The other smaller man hit my dad about the head with the butt of the pistol he was holding.
We know this because the clip fell out on the kitchen floor.
Even though he was beaten dad was able to stay concious and get away long enough to grab another weapon.
This is my last post on this thread so I will make this clear to you Blue efficacy.
If you plan to break into my home wearing a ski mask waving a pistol around you had better be right with your God.
I don't care if you are looking at me or crawled up into a fetal position, with piss running down your leg and crying for your mommy I will end you.
When a criminal (or criminals!!!) break into your house, there is no way you can know that they only want your stuff. They may want to kill you and your family, or rape your wife and daughter, or kidnap, or torture, or who knows what. The graveyards are full of victims who underestimated the intentions of the criminals they met.Yeah, who needs laws. If someone breaks into my house I should just kill them, even if they just want my stuff and don't want me dead.
Two wrongs make a right, after all.
This is exactly what the gun nuts don't understand, guns unnecessarily escalate situations. If the robbers wanted the old man dead, he'd be dead. Just like a bank robbery, let them take what they want, and the cops will find them. If I was a criminal, I would know that it would not be worth it to potentially add murder charges should I get caught.
This would fly out the window if they aimed a gun at me. I would have no choice but to kill the victim. Guns can only make bad situations worse.
Yeah, who needs laws. If someone breaks into my house I should just kill them, even if they just want my stuff and don't want me dead.
Two wrongs make a right, after all.
This is exactly what the gun nuts don't understand, guns unnecessarily escalate situations. If the robbers wanted the old man dead, he'd be dead. Just like a bank robbery, let them take what they want, and the cops will find them. If I was a criminal, I would know that it would not be worth it to potentially add murder charges should I get caught.
This would fly out the window if they aimed a gun at me. I would have no choice but to kill the victim. Guns can only make bad situations worse.
If the robbers wanted the old man dead, he'd be dead.
He used his "area knowledge" to help him commit the crimes.
Well, he wouldn't have been or wouldn't even have known that neighborhood, if it wasn't on his route, right ?
Good grief do I disagree with you.Yeah, who needs laws. If someone breaks into my house I should just kill them, even if they just want my stuff and don't want me dead.
Two wrongs make a right, after all.
This is exactly what the gun nuts don't understand, guns unnecessarily escalate situations. If the robbers wanted the old man dead, he'd be dead. Just like a bank robbery, let them take what they want, and the cops will find them. If I was a criminal, I would know that it would not be worth it to potentially add murder charges should I get caught.
This would fly out the window if they aimed a gun at me. I would have no choice but to kill the victim. Guns can only make bad situations worse.
Not necessarily so. People cover drive on various routes before landing a route of their own, so he could very well have known the area, or several, for that matter.Well, he wouldn't have been or wouldn't even have known that neighborhood, if it wasn't on his route, right ?
Yeah, who needs laws. If someone breaks into my house I should just kill them, even if they just want my stuff and don't want me dead.
Two wrongs make a right, after all.
This is exactly what the gun nuts don't understand, guns unnecessarily escalate situations. If the robbers wanted the old man dead, he'd be dead. Just like a bank robbery, let them take what they want, and the cops will find them. If I was a criminal, I would know that it would not be worth it to potentially add murder charges should I get caught.
This would fly out the window if they aimed a gun at me. I would have no choice but to kill the victim. Guns can only make bad situations worse.
What did the unarmed female victims of this serial killer do to "escalate" the situation?
Apparently he wasn't worried that it might "potentially add murder charges should he get caught" .