Ups Intent to Terminate

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

Hey everyone! I am currently a pre loader at UPS and have recently got an intent to terminate. It happened within a 2 week span. I first got a warning on Monday last week for waking up late, and then one on Friday for the same reason. I then bought a new alarm and this Wednesday it didn’t go off and I was 15 minutes late. I’ve worked here for three years and I can’t lie they have given me plenty of chances in the past. We started to get real strict because other co workers of mine have been calling in and playing hooky. I am really liked by my steward and our center manager and am in the safety committee. I enjoy my job a lot and go to school full time and work another part time job, I also have a 1 and 2 year old which has made my life extremely stressful but still I am in good spirits. I was wondering if you guys believe there is any chance I could win my case if I filed a grievance? I have two mouths to feed in the future and only want honest feedback. Please don’t come here to tell me I shouldn’t be late. This is something that I’m aware of and i needed this wake up call. I’m very stressed out and can’t stop thinking about it for the sake of my future

zubenelgenubi · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
Hey everyone! I am currently a pre loader at UPS and have recently got an intent to terminate. It happened within a 2 week span. I first got a warning on Monday last week for waking up late, and then one on Friday for the same reason. I then bought a new alarm and this Wednesday it didn’t go off and I was 15 minutes late. I’ve worked here for three years and I can’t lie they have given me plenty of chances in the past. We started to get real strict because other co workers of mine have been calling in and playing hooky. I am really liked by my steward and our center manager and am in the safety committee. I enjoy my job a lot and go to school full time and work another part time job, I also have a 1 and 2 year old which has made my life extremely stressful but still I am in good spirits. I was wondering if you guys believe there is any chance I could win my case if I filed a grievance? I have two mouths to feed in the future and only want honest feedback. Please don’t come here to tell me I shouldn’t be late. This is something that I’m aware of and i needed this wake up call. I’m very stressed out and can’t stop thinking about it for the sake of my future

I would have a chat with your center manager, tell him you acknowledge that you've been having problems, that you understand that it is important to show up on time, and that you are taking staps to make sure it doesn't happen again. If that doesn't work, and they terminate, grieve it and you will likely get your job back. Be sure to let your steward and BA know everything that is happening so they can be prepared to defend you as best they can.

I think company policy is that you get 3 occurances in a 9 month period before a warning letter. Not a warning letter the first tardy. You should also have suspensions after the 4th and 5th. I don't think they are following progressive discipline properly. That will work in your favor.

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

zubenelgenubi said:
I would have a chat with your center manager, tell him you acknowledge that you've been having problems, that you understand that it is important to show up on time, and that you are taking staps to make sure it doesn't happen again. If that doesn't work, and they terminate, grieve it and you will likely get your job back. Be sure to let your steward and BA know everything that is happening so they can be prepared to defend you as best they can.

I think company policy is that you get 3 occurances in a 9 month period before a warning letter. Not a warning letter the first tardy. You should also have suspensions after the 4th and 5th. I don't think they are following progressive discipline properly. That will work in your favor.

542thruNthru · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
Hey everyone! I am currently a pre loader at UPS and have recently got an intent to terminate. It happened within a 2 week span. I first got a warning on Monday last week for waking up late, and then one on Friday for the same reason. I then bought a new alarm and this Wednesday it didn’t go off and I was 15 minutes late. I’ve worked here for three years and I can’t lie they have given me plenty of chances in the past. We started to get real strict because other co workers of mine have been calling in and playing hooky. I am really liked by my steward and our center manager and am in the safety committee. I enjoy my job a lot and go to school full time and work another part time job, I also have a 1 and 2 year old which has made my life extremely stressful but still I am in good spirits. I was wondering if you guys believe there is any chance I could win my case if I filed a grievance? I have two mouths to feed in the future and only want honest feedback. Please don’t come here to tell me I shouldn’t be late. This is something that I’m aware of and i needed this wake up call. I’m very stressed out and can’t stop thinking about it for the sake of my future

So other then the warning letter how else were you disciplined.

Different areas have different agreed to attendance policies but I don't know of any that go warning letter, termination.

Yes get with your BA and steward and file a grievance.

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

zubenelgenubi said:
I would have a chat with your center manager, tell him you acknowledge that you've been having problems, that you understand that it is important to show up on time, and that you are taking staps to make sure it doesn't happen again. If that doesn't work, and they terminate, grieve it and you will likely get your job back. Be sure to let your steward and BA know everything that is happening so they can be prepared to defend you as best they can.

I think company policy is that you get 3 occurances in a 9 month period before a warning letter. Not a warning letter the first tardy. You should also have suspensions after the 4th and 5th. I don't think they are following progressive discipline properly. That will work in your favor.

They made us sign a written out letter saying we were going to start out fresh after some of my co workers were having trouble getting to work. Today my steward told me that the union can only do so much when it comes to attendance. He said if it gets sent to panel ( which is likely) they will vote for me to stay or go. I’m really feeling sick to my stomach thinking that I might work here for however long that takes just to find out I’m fired..

542thruNthru · Apr 15, 2020

zubenelgenubi said:
I would have a chat with your center manager, tell him you acknowledge that you've been having problems, that you understand that it is important to show up on time, and that you are taking staps to make sure it doesn't happen again. If that doesn't work, and they terminate, grieve it and you will likely get your job back. Be sure to let your steward and BA know everything that is happening so they can be prepared to defend you as best they can.

I think company policy is that you get 3 occurances in a 9 month period before a warning letter. Not a warning letter the first tardy. You should also have suspensions after the 4th and 5th. I don't think they are following progressive discipline properly. That will work in your favor.

Ours is warning letter on the 7th in 9 months but that is only if you've been given a verbal first.

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
They made us sign a written out letter saying we were going to start out fresh after some of my co workers were having trouble getting to work. Today my steward told me that the union can only do so much when it comes to attendance. He said if it gets sent to panel ( which is likely) they will vote for me to stay or go. I’m really feeling sick to my stomach thinking that I might work here for however long that takes just to find out I’m fired..

Then have to file a grievance and wait for that to be processed. He told me that one time a co worker of his that was driving broke a two dollar piece on a truck and had to file grievance and barely got his job back

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
They made us sign a written out letter saying we were going to start out fresh after some of my co workers were having trouble getting to work. Today my steward told me that the union can only do so much when it comes to attendance. He said if it gets sent to panel ( which is likely) they will vote for me to stay or go. I’m really feeling sick to my stomach thinking that I might work here for however long that takes just to find out I’m fired..

You aren't going to get fired now just straighten up your act !!

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

542thruNthru said:
So other then the warning letter how else were you disciplined.

Different areas have different agreed to attendance policies but I don't know of any that go warning letter, termination.

Yes get with your BA and steward and file a grievance.

I got a warning letter a three day suspension (which I didn’t serve) and then now intent to terminate.

trickpony1 · Apr 15, 2020

Those "intent" letters are designed to scare you.
If they were gonna fire you they would have done it by now, just my guess.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 15, 2020

trickpony1 said:
Those "intent" letters are designed to scare you.
If they were gonna fire you they would have done it by now, just my guess.

I've never seen anyone actually be fired for being late I seen a few suspensions handed out

clean hairy · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
They made us sign a written out letter saying we were going to start out fresh after some of my co workers were having trouble getting to work. Today my steward told me that the union can only do so much when it comes to attendance. He said if it gets sent to panel ( which is likely) they will vote for me to stay or go. I’m really feeling sick to my stomach thinking that I might work here for however long that takes just to find out I’m fired..

Any extra agreements such as this, is not recognized by the union.
And, if a stewart was not present at the time this was signed, that is another problem

542thruNthru · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
I got a warning letter a three day suspension (which I didn’t serve) and then now intent to terminate.

You didn't serve your 3 day? Why?

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

clean hairy said:
Any extra agreements such as this, is not recognized by the union.
And, if a stewart was not present at the time this was signed, that is another problem

They just handed over the belt while I was working.

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

542thruNthru said:
You didn't serve your 3 day? Why?

They needed me working even though we had someone on lay-off. They told me if it gets sent to panel they will check how many times I’ve been late over the past year and terminate if they see I’ve been late a lot most likely

Maplewood · Apr 15, 2020

If you dont file a 'timely' grievance for the suspension letter and the the Termination letter then you will be fired. Thats how it works out here in the West.

542thruNthru · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
They needed me working even though we had someone on lay-off. They told me if it gets sent to panel they will check how many times I’ve been late over the past year and terminate if they see I’ve been late a lot most likely

I wouldn't worry... again call your local speak with your BA. Stop showing up late. Buy 3 damn alarm clocks if you have to.

Brownslave688 · Apr 15, 2020

Rob5442 said:
Hey everyone! I am currently a pre loader at UPS and have recently got an intent to terminate. It happened within a 2 week span. I first got a warning on Monday last week for waking up late, and then one on Friday for the same reason. I then bought a new alarm and this Wednesday it didn’t go off and I was 15 minutes late. I’ve worked here for three years and I can’t lie they have given me plenty of chances in the past. We started to get real strict because other co workers of mine have been calling in and playing hooky. I am really liked by my steward and our center manager and am in the safety committee. I enjoy my job a lot and go to school full time and work another part time job, I also have a 1 and 2 year old which has made my life extremely stressful but still I am in good spirits. I was wondering if you guys believe there is any chance I could win my case if I filed a grievance? I have two mouths to feed in the future and only want honest feedback. Please don’t come here to tell me I shouldn’t be late. This is something that I’m aware of and i needed this wake up call. I’m very stressed out and can’t stop thinking about it for the sake of my future

Probably shouldn’t have been late 3 times in 2 weeks if you really wanted the job that much.

you’ll likely get it back but better not miss or be late for a very long time.

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

Brownslave688 said:
Probably shouldn’t have been late 3 times in 2 weeks if you really wanted the job that much.

you’ll likely get it back but better not miss or be late for a very long time.

We had a guy call in a week straight after we signed this document for being sick after we signed this paper work but our supervisor was in leave and our assistant supervisor didn’t do anything. The guy is best friends with the union stewards daughter so I haven’t said anything

Rob5442 · Apr 15, 2020

I never make excuses because I

Maplewood said:
If you dont file a 'timely' grievance for the suspension letter and the the Termination letter then you will be fired. Thats how it works out here in the West.

how soon should I file s grievance since I have to wait for panel to respond

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