9.5 New Tentative Contract Language?

[Brownslave688]

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I’m in Local 705 Chicago and all drivers are covered by 9.5, including drivers with less than 4 years. This needs to be added nationwide.

More like it never should of been added.


The 4 year language was added last contract. Before everyone was covered. No questions asked.

 

[UPSjedi41]

More like it never should of been added.


The 4 year language was added last contract. Before everyone was covered. No questions asked.

I agree completely. We also need the same rules for 8 hour requests that some have. No 2 hour penalty. You come in at 8 hours done or not

 

[Over70irregs]

I agree completely. We also need the same rules for 8 hour requests that some have. No 2 hour penalty. You come in at 8 hours done or not

What you have just said is vitally important. It’s obvious to me we demand our personal time back. We pay good money monthly and I need to see more ROI (return on investment).

 

[PT Car Washer]

What you have just said is vitally important. It’s obvious to me we demand our personal time back. We pay good money monthly and I need to see more ROI (return on investment).

Not a 9-5 job.

 

[1989]

Not a 9-5 job.

No...9-5 is only 7.5 hours.

 

[Brownslave688]

Not a 9-5 job.

Never has been but that doesn't mean guys can't demand a better life/work balance.

Hell guys used to have golf memberships because there was often time for a round after work.

No this is a typical day. Had to wake my daughter up before I left to drop her off at the babysitter. So I saw her for maybe 10 minutes when she was totally out of it. Now if I have a really good day I might get to see her for an hour before She goes to bed. More than likely though she'll be in bed when I get home.

 

[wide load]

So if you guys/gals got that little gem, I cannot wait to see what was given back or given up...just sayin.

Given up? Your first 2 years of bonuses. Remember, they take from you and give to us. Like Robin Hood.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

I'm new and have a question about the 9.5.

If your center asks you to come in early to help preload, and you come in at 8am (for instance), does 9.5 start from there OR does it start from 9am OR does it start from when you hit the road?

Also, are cover drivers allowed to be on the list?

I'm also assuming that this doesn't cover your break, so if you work 9.5 (without taking a break), are they going to take it out of the 9.5 (giving you 8.5) then complaining you only worked 8.5...?

They are not allowed to take out your break if you don't take it. Was a lawsuit in California about this like 10 years ago

 

[1989]

They are not allowed to take out your break if you don't take it. Was a lawsuit in California about this like 10 years ago

You are correct breaks are included. But I think he was referring to lunch when he said break.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

You are correct breaks are included. But I think he was referring to lunch when he said break.

40 minute Lunch in MN can't be taken out if you don't actually take it.
At least it was that way when I retired

 

[Over70irregs]

Not a 9-5 job.

Ask not....Want not.

 

[wide load]

Not a 9-5 job.

For some it’s a 3.5-5 hour job.

 

[Coldworld]

Given up? Your first 2 years of bonuses. Remember, they take from you and give to us. Like Robin Hood.

I want to know why he thinks this “enhancement “ needs a giveback... let alone a major giveback??? I don’t see anything major in this language.... nothing..

 

[Coldworld]

No...9-5 is only 7.5 hours.

Corporate scam....

 

[Gimme Danger]

Spoke with a member of the negotiating committee. So far (he says) it looks like no give backs by the union. But UPS could spring something out of left field and abandon all the previous proposed agreements at any time, if they don't get their way.

If the company backs out of the tentative agreements, then it would be bad faith bargaining, and illegal under the NLRA.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If the company backs out of the tentative agreements, then it would be bad faith bargaining, and illegal under the NLRA.

Nothing is set in stone until it is ratified.

 

[Gimme Danger]

More like it never should of been added.


The 4 year language was added last contract. Before everyone was covered. No questions asked.

The 4 year language was added after the 2008 contract was ratified, mid-contract. We never really had the every driver eligible for 9.5 language that we ratified in 2008.

 

[Gimme Danger]

Nothing is set in stone until it is ratified.

Yes, but if agreements are undone and a side goes backward in bargaining, then it's a problem.
Neither side are that dumb in this process.

 

[1989]

Nothing is set in stone until it is ratified.

and even then, it’s as if it were written on a marshmallow.

 

[wide load]

I want to know why he thinks this “enhancement “ needs a giveback... let alone a major giveback??? I don’t see anything major in this language.... nothing..

He’s just made because years ago a manager made way more than the drivers. Now, we make more than supervisors and the same as managers. Plus I can wear whatever I want. Hoodies, 5 o’clock shadow, tats, black socks. @Dragon is jelly yo!