Yes, and it worked great.
I'll vote No.
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I'll vote No.
Johney
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I think the only contract I ever voted yes on was the 1990 and that's only because I had a year in and was still drinking the Kool-Aid.
Thebrownblob
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Oh yes, the current devices don’t have the ability to record in cab with the inward-facing sensor. I can’t speak to what UPS wants to do later. That’s where the negotiating team needs to focus because these current devices are going nowhere. We have had management ask questions about reflections from the window, but that is from the outward facing camera that catches it. No discipline on any of it. The most it could be used for us to target people to go physically watch them. Which really isn’t much different than what telematics Gave them.
You mean locally?
Certainly here.
The cameras will stay.
It's the disciplinary language to be fought over.
Last Summer, every cab had them put in(here).......a two person crew went right down the line-up.
No asking....no discussion....no "fight" from the local....we were trained and "coaching"(the disciplinary process)(yes, yes it is) commenced. It's coming.
Thebrownblob
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So you’re telling me you have inward facing cameras not the sensor? We have over 300 package cars. All of them have the sensor not one discipline case.
They call it coaching here, the inward-facing sensor does so little and give them so little information management doesn’t even talk about it anymore. And the only thing the outward facing camera has been used for so far as to congratulate Near misses. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a huge fan but most of it is overblown, and I can’t imagine retiring because of it. Lol I just ignore it. My inward-facing sensor yells at me all day I laugh at it.
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They will be used.
Such as.......where were your hands leading up to and during the accident? How about 10 and 2....reaching, digging through your lunchbox....whatever. Getting a snack? Scrolling on your phone for tunes......most of all.....you will have to be exactly accurate of what was said and done and when. Why do feeders or any UPS vehicle run off of good straight roads? What happened. Did you fall asleep? Noting these cameras could be used in a positive manner for the employee.
You bet.
They care, Believe it.
And for those that don't think with in and out cameras and I think 360(eventually)........the events leading to the scene.....and cause of an accident will all be there. Not just accidents but incidents. Did you cut off someone on purpose? Telematics plus the video will leave little doubt. The question of "What happened?" will be very precise.
BTW....they know where you are looking........see?(pun intended).
I RETIRED OVER IT.
I believe the company thinks it's absolutely their right(witness Hub video) without question. Probably is. Hub video was installed a long time ago without much fanfare.......and is used all the time.
Thebrownblob
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Fear!!
the inward-facing sensor doesn’t show any of the things you’re talking about it just gives a generalized information. And believe it or not, the outward facing camera has been used in other companies like ABF to get a member his job back with huge back pay.
All the things you’re whining about they were able to do before anyway. I’ve been to plenty of panels before Lytix with a Feeder employee who was asked everyone of those questions, and they already knew the answer.
The union needs to focus on solid language for the sensors.
You were retired because of them and you say you said you’re safe? If you’re safe, it would just have been business as usual.
The amount of nonsense and reports the system creates actually makes them look at it less.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Nacho cheese machine and Feeders only lounge in every hub
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Thebrownblob
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I bet UPS is kicking there selfs if they knew he would’ve retired just because they put a sensor in his cab. Isn’t he the same guy who used to say everyone he was around was unsafe? Surely they’re all fired by now.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Have you personally seen any video from a driver facing video
I RETIRED OVER IT not surprised you e been a scared sheep your whole career
Uh huh......
Right. Solid language for the sensors.....sensors.
Say, why does the Hub have cameras....not just sensors?
Don't worry about me Champ. Carry on.
Obtuse: Slow to understand.
Naive: Showing a lack of wisdom, judgement or experience....
Say, are you the tech-rep for these cameras? Own stock? On the development team?
And do you really think....a push of a oh so small button won't change what these "sensors" can do?......will do?....are doing?
HOW DO YOU KNOW....exactly?
And that the Co. wouldn't use this tech to get them out of whatever legal pickle?
Fear? About this? You? chuckle.
Have we met? I don't recall.
Where?
You've never met me but know of my whole career? Fascinating(not really).....
Here we go.
My reason. I don't answer to clowns. As they spill from the gutter.......sigh.
Thebrownblob
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The hubs have cameras in common areas because you do not have a right to privacy in common areas. If you’re ignorant on a subject, stop flipping your gums.
OK scaredy-cat, lol push the button. How tight is your tinfoil hat?
The company is very clever they’re not going to use in cab cameras because they know many states do not allow it. And they really don’t need it.
Apparently, you were such a dangerous driver you’re worried about falling sleep, or grabbing something out of your lunchbox?
How do I know what? What they might try? Who cares? they’re always trying to throw crap against the wall. That’s why we have a grievance procedure.
Yes, I’m very naïve I haven’t heard any thing about these cases and where they go after they leave the building
.If it got you to retire, this technology is well worth it.
Thebrownblob
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Do you answer yourself?
Thebrownblob
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You made a statement that you retired because of in cab cameras that don’t exist.
