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overflowed
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Where in that post did I say I read about the Crusades in the Bible? I'm interested in war history in general. I read a lot . Man , you're sharp as a bee's aase
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Next time try writing less ambiguously.
And it’s altar boy.
And a well educated Catholic knows that God is capitalized.
overflowed
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I barely come on here , I don't read over my quick posts for grammar. I'm not a Catholic. Be easy angry boy.
Did a quick Google search. Washington Post estimates 1.7 million died in the Crusades. Only about 1 in 20 Crusaders actually made it to the Holy Land. 9 million is wildly overstated. Doubt there were 9 million people in the entire Middle East then. I agree with you that no one should be killing in the name of God but let keep in mind that Muslims conquered what had been a Christian area for centuries. Those that attack Christians fighting in the Crusades often play down the constant Muslim attacks on Christendom, ultimately conquering the region and much of southern Europe with forays into Eastern Europe and Russia.
overflowed
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From the books I read it's understated, most of the the problems with this is who was really keeping good records. Nearly 200 years of war. Also , those high figures include people dying of famine and disease. Who knows really.
MrFedEx
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That's an impressive death count. You're in Hitler and Stalin territory. Great argument.
Goes back to the same reality. Civilizations have spent the last 8000 years destroying one another over the question of who's god is the true god and who loves him more.
That includes Crusaders too. Have you ever read about the Mongols and Huns? Or the untold millions the Muslims killed, subjugated, enslaved, including much of southern Europe? We are downright civilized today compared to the brutality that went on for millennia. The difference between you and me is I give you the unvarnished truth but you like to varnish it to fit your narrative. I've said it before and will again now. Jesus never told his followers to kill in his name. Those that did weren't practicing Christianity. And judging by the slaughter of the last century I'm much more concerned about those who don't believe in God, or have an intercessor with God other than Jesus Christ than I am Christians.
Yes, we know what Jesus is alleged to have said on the record. What we don't know is what Jesus may said off the record regarding the matter.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Judging how Christians lived in the first 3 centuries is a pretty good indicator.
Too bad there wasn't such a thing as war crimes tribunals back then. Among the first to be tried would be Christians.
In the first 3 centuries? What wars would those be?
Religious wars. The best and often the bloodiest. Oh, and that Jesus character? There are some who think that he might have been a fictional character cooked up by Jewish scholars to serve as a imaginary spokesman for Jewish teachings.
In any event one thing is for certain. Unbiased and accurate historical accounts of what happened all those centuries ago is more than just a little hard to come by.
History in the first three centuries after Christ's death is very well documented. Dominated by the Roman Empire. There were no religious wars involving Christians then. Persecution of Christians, yes.
You got that right.
I’m writing a book entitled “Catholicism is for Fags: How a Group of Raping Pieces of Excrement, Who Work for a Corporate Religion, Killed God.
As you can see, I capitalized “God”.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
It’s a fairly distinctive title. I’m sure you’ll notice when it’s released.
Nope. I have, however, provided counseling for some of the victims.
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MrFedEx
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There is no God, just fake "gods". Fixed it for you.
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