The ( OFFICIAL ) angry Contract results thread!

[upsbeernut]

I know most package drivers and feeder guys in our center voted no. Our guys were split a lot among who likes overtime and drivers who want just 8/40 if that. I don't blame people who have their finances in order to make it work on 40 hours but the 22.4 wage and lack of protection is no way to treat new drivers intended to keep you from working weekends

22.4 is closing in on part time routes with non consistency which is not how we made this company great.

 

[over9five]

Any offer you vote on is the final offer.
Have you ever had anyone say to you "Vote on this. We have a final offer Tuesday, but we need you to vote on this one now"

 

[Dulce Bombón]

Well, you refer to yourself as a Latina...

So..?

 

[undies]

All the part timers I talked to were not planning to vote at all, didn’t even see why it was important to them since they see the job as temporary.

 

[wilberforce15]

All the part timers I talked to were not planning to vote at all, didn’t even see why it was important to them since they see the job as temporary.

And it is the contracts and leadership put in by the old guys that made them see it that way.

 

[The Range]

This was the petri dish. Wait until next contract. They know part-timers will not vote in enough numbers to put down a bad contract. Everyone now believes (rightfully so) their vote does not matter. Next turn out will be abysmal. That language is going to be exploited for extreme concessions to targetted members. Zero vacations, minimum wage, no health insurance, no sick time for all full-timers. Deal with it. The union has been busted.

 

[PT Car Washer]

This was the petri dish. Wait until next contract. They know part-timers will not vote in enough numbers to put down a bad contract. Everyone now believes (rightfully so) their vote does not matter. Next turn out will be abysmal. That language is going to be exploited for extreme concessions to targetted members. Zero vacations, minimum wage, no health insurance, no sick time for all full-timers. Deal with it. The union has been busted.

Who gets sick pay?

 

[Moneythehardway]

Got it, so if this was the 'final' offer why does the IBT's announcement state "The committee fully intends to demand that UPS return to the bargaining table to address a number of member concerns with the National Master UPS Agreement."

 

[DOK]

We still have leverage in this situation if Hoffa had the balls. We have an overwhelming no vote and a strike authorization vote in hand, he could demand ups back to the table if he wanted to, period.

 

[over9five]

Got it, so if this was the 'final' offer why does the IBT's announcement state "The committee fully intends to demand that UPS return to the bargaining table to address a number of member concerns with the National Master UPS Agreement."

They're trying to save face, I would guess. We all agree, they're looking pretty bad right now...

 

[trickpony1]

If the OP's claim is true, why hasn't the NLRB gotten involved?
The union darn sure isn't gonna do anything.

 

[born2Bwild]

I never read the initial, 2nd and 3rd proposal from the company, they kept us in the dark so it can be argued that this was first offer too

 

[Nike]

LOL the company screwed itself more than anyone, our employee quality has gone to crap, our equipment is crap, our wages and benefits are getting weaker by the day, and the harassment by management never ceases.
Shoveling a crappy work contract says more about the company than anything, they're so smug but they don't realize we have been slipping for years now, this will only accelerate that as we lose out on good employees and are stuck with the slugs, deadbeats, and losers.

 

[born2Bwild]

For the fact that they hid the negotiation progress they should not be able to force it on us

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They're trying to save face, I would guess. We all agree, they're looking pretty bad right now...

Ive seen fat chicks at last call look way better than this mess....

 

[Scuderia]

If the OP's claim is true, why hasn't the NLRB gotten involved?
The union darn sure isn't gonna do anything.

Let’s wait till Monday.

 

[PT Car Washer]

LOL the company screwed itself more than anyone, our employee quality has gone to crap, our equipment is crap, our wages and benefits are getting weaker by the day, and the harassment by management never ceases.
Shoveling a crappy work contract says more about the company than anything, they're so smug but they don't realize we have been slipping for years now, this will only accelerate that as we lose out on good employees and are stuck with the slugs, deadbeats, and losers.

And the company post record profits year after year. Everything is going as planned.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Let’s wait till Monday.

Yeah. Maybe trump will order the FBI to investigate.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yeah. Maybe trump will order the FBI to investigate.

It will still get confirmed anyways

Kavanaugh Clause.....

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Move it to the useless members forum,however that will fill up anout 56 percent of this website.

The Union forum is already chock full