The ( OFFICIAL ) angry Contract results thread!

hellfire

no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
Most of the part timers I know that worked over a year did vote. You need to realize if 65% of UPS is PT and 50% of the part time employees have worked at UPS UNDER two years and are going to school and UPS. They could care less about unions or the company. They’re getting tuition paid for and some cash on the side, that’s all they care about. So why is it required to have 50% vote? Thank seems unrealistic under our employment circumstances.
Hoffa didn’t make that rule, it’s in the ibt constitution. Right or wrong the deal is done
 

Returntosender

Well-Known Member
All it took was a jet, a country club membership, and a years supplies of funions. Jimmy loves funions
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mikejonesjr

Well-Known Member
Does anyone know the history behind this rule,who got it put in the constitution and why?
The 50% rule would have been relevant 25 years ago when UPS was seen as a career for most and tougher to get into. Now it's tough to keep people and most leave in 3 months so we can't expect 50% to vote when the current demographic shows 20% of workers are leaving in 3 months regardless. It's essentially saying this contract is forced ratified because 10,000 employees who are quitting during peak anyway didn't vote. This contract doesn't effect them why do we need them to vote!!
 

clipperman

Well-Known Member
The 50% rule would have been relevant 25 years ago when UPS was seen as a career for most and tougher to get into. Now it's tough to keep people and most leave in 3 months so we can't expect 50% to vote when the current demographic shows 20% of workers are leaving in 3 months regardless. It's essentially saying this contract is forced ratified because 10,000 employees who are quitting during peak anyway didn't vote. This contract doesn't effect them why do we need them to vote!!
But who installed it into our constitution in the first place and why
 

BigBrown87

If it’s brown, it’s going down
I’m not a Hoffa fan but it’s not his fault 44% voted.
It will he his fault if he imposes this piece of crap contract. He has the option to go back to the table and with 44.5 turn out is not far from 50%. If he imposes this contract he will be gone in 2021 for sure, no Canada to save him this time.
 

Skooney

Well-Known Member
Then why is freight going to renogotiate? Why why did Denis T initially say package was going back to the table as well?

He didn't say package was going back.

He said they WOULD go back IF the company was agreeable. Do you just pick and choose words to fit your agenda, or do you actually listen?
 
It will he his fault if he imposes this piece of crap contract. He has the option to go back to the table and with 44.5 turn out is not far from 50%. If he imposes this contract he will be gone in 2021 for sure, no Canada to save him this time.
The man is 77 years old. Do you really think he cares about serving another term.
 

babboo25

Banned
It will he his fault if he imposes this piece of crap contract. He has the option to go back to the table and with 44.5 turn out is not far from 50%. If he imposes this contract he will be gone in 2021 for sure, no Canada to save him this time.
But he was given that option by poor turnout, take it out of his corrupt weasly hands.
 

Over disciplined0123

Well-Known Member
Most of the part timers I know that worked over a year did vote. You need to realize if 65% of UPS is PT and 50% of the part time employees have worked at UPS UNDER two years and are going to school and UPS. They could care less about unions or the company. They’re getting tuition paid for and some cash on the side, that’s all they care about. So why is it required to have 50% vote? Thank seems unrealistic under our employment circumstances.
That’s what I said previous post
 
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