United health insurance outlaws private insurance

[Brownsocks]

The thing is, plenty of illegal immigrants are normal working people, paying taxes, stimulating the economy, etc. To demand citizenship papers before receiving health care defeats the purpose of universal coverage. The general populace is not well served having an underclass of sick people spreading disease due to lack of access to care. We will care for these people regardless of their status when the show up in ERs, we’re all better off when care can be provided before that’s necessary. Immigration needs reform, but that’s going to take a lot more than a wall on the border.

The fact is most illegals have low wage jobs and large families, so they will definitely get more than they give and will be a burden on us. I find it ironic that people with some of this countries best healthcare would champion a public plan with no private option that would be devastating to the overall quality of the healthcare we receive.

Most people are happy with their private healthcare and dont want to lose it, but the out of touch Democrats are hell bent on shoveling the down our throats. Medicare for all would be a deathblow to the worlds best hospitals, short wait times and middle class wallets. Every state that tried to incorporate single payer had to stop because of the massive payroll taxes needed to implement.

 

[Wally]

So why would anyone with private health insurance vote dem. If they want to take away our insurance leaving us with no compensation. The company's that offer private insurance will definitely get taxed by government and then we can all go online and pay because we make too much to get it for free

Teamster leadership would take government healthcare. They love socialism.

 

[bacha29]

Name please,
more questions may follow.

If you don't know off the top of your head, look it up. You supposedly know whom and which state you are referring to.
Until you do that minimal task, everything you just said is View attachment 253784.

Again, when you provide the information more questions may follow.

Corbett Pennsylvania

 

[cachmeifucan]

Does anyone actually dispute that if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2020 they will soon take our insurance away without any compensation. Every plan eventually eliminate private health insurance

 

[oldngray]

Does anyone actually dispute that if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2020 they will soon take our insurance away without any compensation. Every plan eventually eliminate private health insurance

Ocasio-Cortez: Nobody is ‘heartbroken’ at the prospect of losing private health insurance

 

[newfie]

Just exactly who is......"THEY" and what is the basis of your belief that "THEY" has any intention of taking away your private health insurance?

They are the Democrats and they have said so.

he didn't get the memo from his handler

 

[newfie]

Big insurance and big pharma will simply have to get more competitive .

wow that's what Trump has said all along and pushed hard for to make the market more competitive. Welcome to reality

 

[newfie]

Cut taxes at the federal level the revenue shortfall as it applies to mandated programs will almost always get passed down to the state and local level. There was once had a governor in a nearby state who cut spending at the state level including state support for public education which in turn was handed back down to the county and local levels which required huge tax increases at those levels. To the surprise of no one he was the state's first incumbent governor who failed to gain reelection in the state's entire history receiving far less than 40% of the vote.

states have to balance the budget.

 

[newfie]

Does anyone actually dispute that if a Democrat wins the presidency in 2020 they will soon take our insurance away without any compensation. Every plan eventually eliminate private health insurance

that was the goal with Obamacare. they knew Obamacare would fail and pull us into socialized health care

 

[newfie]

Teamster leadership would take government healthcare. They love socialism.

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liberal governments will provide all your needs ala san fran

 

[bacha29]

that was the goal with Obamacare. they knew Obamacare would fail and pull us into socialized health care

"Socialized healthcare"......We already have it...... It's called Medicare.......We've had it for more than half a century!.....And when you turn 65 you'll be Medicare eligible......You DON"T HAVE to enroll if you don't want to......And this is what the consercuks, trumpeters and holly rollers can't seem to get through their thick heads when it comes to buying their own health insurance. What is being proposed is that a public healthcare OPTION be added to the exchanges and available for purchase......If it isn't what you want or support you don't have to purchase it. If you've got the money to purchase the for profit shareholder owned insurance company product please feel free to buy it.

 

[bacha29]

states have to balance the budget.

And to do so they can and have raised state taxes or pass every mandated service they can get away with down to the counties and municipalities and let them raise taxes at their level. it's like a Republican state representative once told me. " In order to cut spending the people have to first tell us which essential services they are willing to sacrifice and are prepared to do without".

 

[bacha29]

wow that's what Trump has said all along and pushed hard for to make the market more competitive. Welcome to reality

Trump wanted to open up health insurance markets to cross state insurers but he obviously never heard of the McCarran Ferguson Act. This law provides the states with the right to oversee and regulate the insurance industry within their borders and create their own insurance commissions. To this date 5 states have thrown open their health insurance markets to out of state insurers. How many insurers have bitten on the offer?.....ZERO.

 

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Ocasio-Cortez: Nobody is ‘heartbroken’ at the prospect of losing private health insurance

I wonder who all these “nobodies” are she’s talking abiut?

 

[Jkloc420]

"Socialized healthcare"......We already have it...... It's called Medicare.......We've had it for more than half a century!.....And when you turn 65 you'll be Medicare eligible......You DON"T HAVE to enroll if you don't want to......And this is what the consercuks, trumpeters and holly rollers can't seem to get through their thick heads when it comes to buying their own health insurance. What is being proposed is that a public healthcare OPTION be added to the exchanges and available for purchase......If it isn't what you want or support you don't have to purchase it. If you've got the money to purchase the for profit shareholder owned insurance company product please feel free to buy it.

it will be bankrupt by the time i retire

 

[newfie]

"Socialized healthcare"......We already have it...... It's called Medicare.......We've had it for more than half a century!.....And when you turn 65 you'll be Medicare eligible......

yep and you better have a back up plan because it does not pay squat

 

[newfie]

And to do so they can and have raised state taxes or pass every mandated service they can get away with down to the counties and municipalities and let them raise taxes at their level. it's like a Republican state representative once told me. " In order to cut spending the people have to first tell us which essential services they are willing to sacrifice and are prepared to do without".

and your point was?

 

[newfie]

Trump wanted to open up health insurance markets to cross state insurers but he obviously never heard of the McCarran Ferguson Act. This law provides the states with the right to oversee and regulate the insurance industry within their borders and create their own insurance commissions. To this date 5 states have thrown open their health insurance markets to out of state insurers. How many insurers have bitten on the offer?.....ZERO.

Obamacare also limited your choices as many states found out. your socialist buddies have ruined our health care system and done everything to drive us to single payer and against a competitive market.

 

[bacha29]

Obamacare also limited your choices as many states found out. your socialist buddies have ruined our health care system and done everything to drive us to single payer and against a competitive market.

Let me try once more. The McCarron Ferguson Act gives the individual states the right to oversee and regulate the insurance business within state borders. Five states have opened up their health insurance markets to out of state health insurers but no takers. It should come as no surprise. Why? They have to bear the cost of creating an insurance product that meets with state insurance commission approval along with securing contracts with healthcare providers at negotiated rates and do it on a broad enough scale in order to create a provider network , price it in competitively and go find people to sell it. The startup costs for a product you don't whether or not anybody will want to buy it can be greater than the returns......This is the reality of the matter and just exactly what does your Rush Limbaugh handbook has to say regarding the impact of Obamacare has on these proceedings.

 

[bacha29]

and your point was?

There really isn't such a thing as cutting spending . It's just passed down line to the state and local level.