When does the negotiations get to the economics/pay?

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Or they are too smart to work a crappy job with crappy pay.

Maybe. Or they could just he too lazy to work a job with benefits and a possibility if going out driving

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You said 5 years of less contributions, how would that help? They still accrue full credit, for less money.

Anyone who stays beyond their five years would have their full benefits restored.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Maybe. Or they could just he too lazy to work a job with benefits and a possibility if going out driving

You make it sound like our job is the end all, be all.

Newsflash—-anyone with half a brain can do our job.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Maybe. Or they could just he too lazy to work a job with benefits and a possibility if going out driving

What benefits? Don't start until after a year.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

What benefits? Don't start until after a year.

And how many jobs give you no benefits?

We all got to start somewhere.

 

[wide load]

Just guys talking around our building. Our building cant keep any part timers cuz of the pay and the amout of work they have daily. They work for a week or 2 then quit.

Understandable. I do think the starting wage will be addressed but not at the level most think. And full timers won’t go for a no raise. Limited raise maybe, but none is a no vote.

 

[wide load]

$35/hr to deliver pkgs is too high.

$35/hr to load pkgs would be absurd.

So why did UPS agree to $37 if $35 was too high?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So why did UPS agree to $37 if $35 was too high?

Good question.

Two tiered FT wage coming soon.

 

[upschuck]

Anyone who stays beyond their five years would have their full benefits restored.

For less contributions? That's how pensions got in trouble

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

For less contributions? That's how pensions got in trouble

The company would make up the difference with a lump sum contribution on their 5 year anniversary.

 

[upschuck]

The company would make up the difference with a lump sum contribution on their 5 year anniversary.

So they have up to 5 years of lost growth?

 

[wide load]

Good question.

Two tiered FT wage coming soon.

So the rest of us are stuck at 37 forever

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So the rest of us are stuck at 37 forever

$37/hr goes a long way in Little Puerto Rico (Rhode Island).

 

[wide load]

$37/hr goes a long way in Little Puerto Rico (Rhode Island).

Well I’ll stop asking for a raise when either management stops talking or until I’m at $60 an hour. Obviously you’ve forgotten our taxes.

 

[PT Car Washer]

And how many jobs give you no benefits?

We all got to start somewhere.

How many Union negotiated jobs have no benefits?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How many Union negotiated jobs have no benefits?

To start? Plenty although 1 year is unusual.

 

[1989]

So they have up to 5 years of lost growth?

As of now we get .10 an hour into pension until you gain seniority. Then you get the full amount. Let’s say $10 an hour.

Keep it at .10 until 90 days. Then bump it to $4-$5 an hour. Then full amount after 5 years.

 

[1989]

So the rest of us are stuck at 37 forever

Yes....and you’ll like it.

 

[upschuck]

As of now we get .10 an hour into pension until you gain seniority. Then you get the full amount. Let’s say $10 an hour.

Keep it at .10 until 90 days. Then bump it to $4-$5 an hour. Then full amount after 5 years.

Just hurting pension. Full contribution, for full credited year.

A lot of pensions got in trouble by giving full credit for less than full contribution.

 

[1989]

Just hurting pension. Full contribution, for full credited year.

A lot of pensions got in trouble by giving full credit for less than full contribution.

A full credit only means 500 hours in my pension. @ $10 an hour I would get $60 a month for that year. @ $5 an hour I would get $30 a month.

If it’s an issue, don’t make those years peer eligible. That would save the company an extra $1.40 or so an hour. I would still get my $30 a month but have to work 2.5 years longer.