Uggh. The corporate line on surepost is that is volume we are GAINING that would have otherwise gone to the USPS or through Fed Ex Smart Post.
Do you somehow believe that the delivery of packages is insignificant to UPS profits? It is the engine that allows all the other branches within UPS to exist.
What is the point you are trying to make?
I made my point earlier: The primary growth at UPS is coming outside its domestic small package system; the domestic small package system contributes only a fraction of the profit. You challenged this point, but did not prove me wrong.
A very much YMMV situation. The majority of drivers I work with (I work in a very large building housing three centers) were hired during an expansion period and never worked an inside shift. Many others worked just a few months. Compare that to what it takes today: a bid closed two weeks ago and the lowest senior guy was 12-years PT.
Starting to sound like my ex wife. I say up, you say down. I say black, you say white. I got it.
First off, I worked the pre-load. 2nd off, in my building...my center the preload is not held to the same standards as drivers. There is one preloader that has been working for over a year now. He is good for atleast 5 missloads per truck a DAY.
3rd off, until you drive you have no business commenting on what skills are needed.
Thats what I said ...pay them more......but hold them more accountable. You are so set on being argumentive, that you don't see that you just stated the same thing I did.
A good portion of the loaders I know are getting paid what they are worth. When I have to deliver 3 miss loads to 3 different area's and that takes me an extra 45 minutes to an hour do to driving all over Gods creation that is costing the company a lot of money at 45+ an hour not including fuel and other expenses.
Again, according to your statement you agree with me. Pay more and get better workers. In my building, if you got a pulse you got a job. If you want to drive, you need a hell of a lot more then a pulse.
If and when you drive, you can comment on what it takes. Until then, perhaps it is reasonable you speak of which you know.
And the point of this argument in relation to contract talks with the teamsters is ???
Interesting that you detail other individual's path to driving and not your own.
When have I ever changed my position? I thought we could have an intelligent conversation, but you're starting to respond like a child.
I seriously doubt management wouldn't act upon a Preloader missloading 15-20 packages per day. I was an alternate steward for several years. I KNOW the company acts upon missloads, etc.
I've been FT driving for almost two years. I previously drove seasonally as well as Saturday for many years before that. This isn't a skilled position; you merely need to know how to drive and be capable of doing manual labor.
You changed your argument. I just reiterated what I previously wrote.
Sure, after a decade of PT I was making about $20/hour. But I was being chased off the clock in less that three hours, and being harassed if I asked for my guarantee. And we don't deliver missloads; the FT sups retrieve them or we tag them as missed. Occasionally, if a stop is relatively close we're ask to pursue it but usually only when there's a guarantee.
I merely reiterated what I've written all along: if you hire anybody with a pulse, you're going to get the quality of anybody with a pulse.
I bet I have more (cumulative) driving experience than you...
Huh? What details would you like to know?
Sorry but I want the same opportunities you had Upstate. Am I correct in thinking you would vote "Yes" on a two tier wage system that will not affect you monetarily, Upstate?
Yes as it know it will ensure the financial stability of the company in the long term.
I would agree with that.You need to lose the Nancy crap. My name is Dave.
So if I am to understand your position.. you are in your mid 30 s and still in the wage progression as a driver after 2 years.
You are trying to convince the rest of us that have been driving for decades that we should be happy for what we are making and not ask for an increase in pay because it would hurt the company.
I am glad we didn't have people like you negotiating for us over the last 30 years. The company has claimed they are struggling to pay our wages for as long as I have been with the company.. yet the dividend goes up each year.
...and you could probably careless if UPS falters as a corporation beacause you'll be retired by then.
Me, me, me, it's all about me... gotta love the mentality on these forums.
FedEx Ground, OnTrac, etc. are real threats, folks. And they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
I wouldn't. I'm liking Suze, too.I would agree with that.
Stop raising the dividend by 10 % and spending a few billion to buy back shares to give to management as bonuses each year. The company could then lower prices.
The problem has been identified.I make the assumption that the BOD has considered that.
To protect the integrity of UPS stock, the dividend needs to go up another $0.03 per quarter in the next 9 months. Buying back stock is a decent investment if UPS gets the dividend paid backed to the company.
Most management does not get the MIP in stock ... you are so 1990's.
And assuming the MIP was paid in stock now, management would then be paid in cash, which is essentially what happens now other than the RSU which are immediately sold by most management.
The problem has been identified.
To protect the integrity of UPS stock, the dividend needs to go up another $0.03 per quarter in the next 9 months.
Please explain what this means?